dimitar Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Hi everyone I have 2 Cephi that live in small pots. Thaey have 4-5 big pitchers and some smaller ones. Do they need to be re-potted; what age and what are the signs for this? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexis Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Are they too large physically for the pot size? They seem happy in big pots as well as being cramped, spilling over the sides. They sometimes grow in rocky outcrops in the wild, so don't mind being cramped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimitar Posted December 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 The pots are not very big - they are standard type. Unfortunately I don't know how to put pictures because I am new. How old must be the plant to re-pot it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFS Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 if they're in little 70mm pots (the size of a teacup) I would pot them up without disturbing the roots (knock the whole contents out of the pot and place in a 100 - 125 mm pot without root disturbance), if only to allow them more space to grow roots. As said above, they don't mind being crowded and I seldom repot mine until their pitchers are spilling over the sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobile Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 If you can, post a photo so we could give best advise. Here's a guide to posting photos:http://www.cpukforum.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=32490 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimitar Posted December 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 http://media.snimka.bg/4913/016080896.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFS Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 That doesn't seem overcrowded to me at all... Nicely grown! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobile Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 That doesn't look overcrowded and looks to be growing well... I wouldn't repot yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loligo1964 Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Very nice . . . I too would not worry about repotting for some time; and I have also found, over the years, that relatively shallower pots encourage further lateral rhizome growth and, consequently, more frequent offshoots near the soil surface . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobile Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Below is a picture of one of mine from three months ago. As you can see it is getting crowded but I still wouldn't consider repotting it yet. I have a preference to tall pots (rose pots) as I can leave them standing in water year round without the soil surface becoming too wet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amar Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 sensational!! mine aren't faring too well, not sure what I should be doing differently. I have them on the windowsill, I make sure they stay damp, the pots are fairly large. one standard, one big-boy. At first powdery mildew got to them, then i put up a fan, kept the air circulation up and it seems to help against the mildew. but the plants just don't look all too healthy. . any advice? standard: big boy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobile Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Amar, Cephalotus seems to be one of those species which some people have success with and others don't. The one above grows in a deep pot of peat and perlite, standing year round in a saucer of rainwater on my kitchen windowsill. The kitchen gets hot at times, especially when the condenser tumble dryer is on, but this usually leads the the window being opened so ventilation is good. I live in a northern coastal area so natural temperatures are typically low and humidity high. This year it flowered so the conditions are clearly favourable for it - and now I've got 50+ seedlings You pictures are in photobucket which the company I work for blocks so I can't view them at the moment, but I find 'big boy' to be fairly fast growing. I have mine under grow lights so the conditions are quite different to above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amar Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 mhhh, I haven't kept them under my growlights this year, maybe I should, actually, I think I should..don't think this lame sun does them any good.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loligo1964 Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 (edited) sensational!!mine aren't faring too well, not sure what I should be doing differently. I have them on the windowsill, I make sure they stay damp, the pots are fairly large. one standard, one big-boy. At first powdery mildew got to them, then i put up a fan, kept the air circulation up and it seems to help against the mildew. but the plants just don't look all too healthy. . any advice? standard: I would back away a bit on the watering or any misting which would promote fungus or mold (especially this time of year) and treat the plant with a mild anti-fungal, such as a neem oil solution . . . Edited December 17, 2009 by loligo1964 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amar Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 (edited) right, i've now relocated them. as you can see, they now get more light. the bigboy now will always be standing in water. of course, I could put a saucer into the big brown tray, thereby having more control of how wet I want the medium to be...as with the standard ceph. Edited December 17, 2009 by Amar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimitar Posted December 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Thanks to all for the professional advices. I appreciate very highly Mobile's help (the person named in the Forum) who helped me for the uploading of the photos. Let me ask you about growing Ceph - from one month I grow it in a terrarium where the humidity is 80% and at night it is above 90%. The temperature in the day is 20-24 C and at night 16-18C - is this proper during this period? Do I need to re-fill the pitchersif the liquid is not much? Thanks!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenofeden Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Amar your plants still appear to have mildew, they need to be treated ASAP with a mildew specific fungicide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amar Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 stephen, systemic, or will a spray do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenofeden Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 as long as it is specific to powdery mildew, the active ingredient penconazole works well (here in the UK Roseclear or Fungus Clear) otherwise the strength is being sapped away from your plants by the fungus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amar Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 thanks, have got a spray from the garden center, says it works against powdery mildew, active agent is difenoconazole 0.15g/L. Spraying onto the fuzzy little heads won't harm them? well, I guess the fungus harms them more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobile Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Let me ask you about growing Ceph - from one month I grow it in a terrarium where the humidity is 80% and at night it is above 90%. The temperature in the day is 20-24 C and at night 16-18C - is this proper during this period? Do I need to re-fill the pitchersif the liquid is not much? Thanks!!! I personally only grow my Cephalotus leaf cuttings in a terrarium, my adult plants are on windowsills or on my growshelf. Your plant looks healthy so that's perhaps an indicator that it is ok with the conditions you are giving it. One word of caution though, to achieve such high humidities often means there is poor ventilation, this could lead to fungal attack which Cephalotus as allegedly susceptible to. You should consider putting a low voltage (PC) fan inside your terraium if you don't already have one. If you get a 12VDC one, and a selectable voltage DC power supply (adapter) you can run the fan at a lower voltage so it gives a gentle breeze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimitar Posted December 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Thank you - I didn't think about that. I grow the Ceph together with some types of Nepenthes and Heliamphora in the terrarium. That is why I have this high level of humidity. But I will get a fan. I don't know if the conditions are acceptable for both types of plants? I hope you could tell me. I like very much these types and I don't want to lose them. Sorry, I don't understand if I should re-fill the pitchers of the Ceph? Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobile Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 (edited) Sorry, I don't understand if I should re-fill the pitchers of the Ceph? Sorry, I forgot to answer that. No, don't fill the pitchers, they produce their own fluid. The only fluid I ever add to the pitchers is dilute foliar feed but this has to be done with caution. Edited December 17, 2009 by mobile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimitar Posted December 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 I want to ask you which carnivorous plants are appropriate for growing with Ceph in a terrarium? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmatil Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 I want to ask you which carnivorous plants are appropriate for growing with Ceph in a terrarium? Thanks! I have many Nepenthes growing in the same terrarium as Cephalotus and so far with success. The only problem is a bit too high (soil) temperature during summer. Here is my setup: http://koti.welho.com/pmatil/lihikset/terra9_pieni.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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