snowwy Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) Hi all! :) I started this challenge a few months ago and I'm excited to see what happens (and grows). I have never grown Sarracenia from seeds, only sundews. Im willing to learn and observe how the plants will grow. I have two kinds of batches of seeds. The first one is a leucophylla cross, 2013 seeds and the another one contains 4 different crosses and are 2012 seeds. Sarracenia leucophylla cross (LL 51 Leuco Russel Road x L9mk ALBA ) - Total of 25 seeds - Cold stratification 15.11-6.12.13 - Put below a plant lamp 6.12. - Germination started 18.12. - 10 seeds germinated 19.12. - 18 seeds germinated 24.12. - 19 seeds germinated 30.12. SH510 S. 'Uncle Jim's Rd 2' x (flava - Red tube x alata - Red lid) - Total of 23 seeds - Cold stratification 22.11-23.12.13 - Put below a plant lamp 23.12. - Germination started 3.1.2014 - 4 seeds germinated 3.1. - 6 seeds germinated 4.1. - 12 seeds germinated 9.1. - 11.2. transplanting SH473 S. 'Mercury' x moorei 'Adrian Slack' - Total of 21 seeds - Cold stratification 22.11-23.12.13 - Put below a plant lamp 23.12. - Germination started 4.1 - 3 seeds germinated 4.1. - 9 seeds germinated 9.1. - 12 seeds germinated 12.1. - 11.2. transplanting SH429 S. flava var. cuprea - Prince George County, Virginia x 'Orange Fire' - Total of 57 seeds - Cold stratification 22.11-23.12.13 - Put below a plant lamp 23.12. - Germination started 3.1.2014 - 3 seeds germinated 3.1. - 5 seeds germinated 4.1. - 32 seeds germinated 9.1. - 11.2. transplanting SH448 S. (leucophylla - Baldwin County W x flava var. rugelii) x flava var. atropurpurea - All red form - Blackwater River State Forest, Florida - Total of 58 seeds - Cold stratification 22.11-23.12.13 - Put below a plant lamp 23.12. - Germination started 1.1.2014 with 2 sprouts - 7 seeds germinated 9.1. - 11.2. transplanting _____ Edited February 28, 2014 by snowwy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowwy Posted December 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 LL 51 Leuco Russel Road x L9mk ALBA: 18.12. 25.12. 31.12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ada Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 congratulations! You will now be hooked on growing sarracenia from seed and seeing all the variations that are produced from the same batch of seed. You can grow them under lights for a couple of seasons before they need a dormant period,this will make them grow much faster. The only draw back to this is,you may lose some plants to the cold if or when you leave them in a cold greenhouse as they mature. I leave them out in the cold as nature intended and this sorts out any weaklings for you very early and leaves only the toughest plants that are suited to your conditions. good luck and keep the pictures coming. ada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) Nice challenge :) Sarracenia seeds can grow very quicly under good care, its very rewarding. In 05/2012 i sow 50 s.minor seeds and less than one year later the plants are adults with flowers. I do this with vfts also. You can skip the first dormancy, your sars will grow much faster. If the plants try to go dormant, just repot them, raise the day/night temperatures and feed them VERY well. Also, try adding blue light spectrum to your setup, this will reach the plant tissues better if you have massive relative humidity. Keep us posted with many pictures ! EDIT: sorry ada, i didnt read your post before posting mine, we said the same thing LOL Edited December 31, 2013 by Maiden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowwy Posted December 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) Thanks!: The seedlings and the seeds are below one 15W plant CFL around 15 hours a day. Since the light is not that equally spread I move the light from one side to another. ada: I'm eager to see what they turn out to be. Our spring starts in April-May so little ones have plenty of time to grow before I put them outside.Thank you I try to keep you all updated. Maiden: Your minors were then very quick! I think I won't archieve the same speed Oh well I'm thinking about skipping their first dormancy in order to make them bigger faster. I have a daylight lamp waiting for them once they gain a little size first. Thanks! This is the biggest fella. So cute! Edited December 31, 2013 by snowwy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_P Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Congratulations Snowwy, I've not had any luck with Sarracenia seeds so far. Ian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ada Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 sarracenia seeds are easy to germinate. just sow them now on your soil mix and they'll germinate in late april/may depending on the weather. keep them moist/wet and well ventilated,nature does the rest. ada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowwy Posted January 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 I read first about using a paper towel in stratification. However I ended up using 100% spagnum. No mold so far :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowwy Posted January 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 First germination sign in this seedbox! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedric-666 Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) Growing sarras from seeds is exciting (especially when they are the result of your own crossings)and not difficult. It can be rewarding on the long term if you use seeds resulting from potentially interesting crosses. However according to my experience, it is very slow, even when growing them in terrarium (some other guys obviously get much faster results than me). Using a few granulates of Rhododendron fertilizers helps a bit, but you have to be very careful with that (too many granulates can be deadly to the seedlings). Another point, when you plan to use seeds resulting from complex crosses, you should try to get many seeds, as the results can be very heterogeneous. Sometimes in a series of 40 seedlings you get one very nice one and the rest is rubbish (well, in other cases you get several nice ones). Edited January 12, 2014 by Cedric-666 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnivine Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 I have set a large number of sarracenia seeds, and they germinate well but then they dont seem to grow very much at all? Why is this happening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ada Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 sarra, seedlings are very slow naturally.You need patience to grow them and good quality peat. seedlings definetly get something from peat they need for growth no matter what the peat free brigade say. ada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowwy Posted February 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) What sized the seedlings must be in order to repot them? Some of mine are starting to form their 5th leaf. Edited February 7, 2014 by snowwy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frangelo Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 You must wait until the seedlings have one year, now they are too small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowwy Posted February 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Frangelo: Interesting. I have read that repotting would be done after 1-2 months of growth or in the middle of 3-5 true leaf stage. I think repotting would be okay because the seedlings are growing in shallow, 1cm thick sphagnum media. That way the roots wont have that much vertical growth space :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miroslav Srba Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 It doesn't matter what size do you repot your seedlings, if you do it carefully. I do repot mines as they have first true leave (pitcher). They have only single root of 1 - 1,5 cm in lenght in that stage. So repotting with tweezers is very fast and safe for such a short root. You can do it like sewing machine. I can do about 1000 seedlings a day in this way. As the seedlings are larger and roots londer, this job is much more time consuming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexis Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 I find using a small screwdriver is a good way to repot seedlings. Just push the root into the soil with one. You won't break the root. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest paul y Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 im ordering a thousand mixed sarracenia seeds from triffid nurseries, it should be interesting to see just what comes of these seeds, gong to order quite a few named species and hybrids as well, I grow thousands of plants from seeds every year but this will be the first mass cp attempt, quick question as I will have far too many trays for a fridge and temps outside are rapidly rising is it too late to strat outside in a greenhouse, or am I better off fridging as much as possible and rotating trays into the fridge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowwy Posted February 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 They look like this at the moment. Photo is 1 week old though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowwy Posted February 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) Update LL 51 Leuco Russel Road x L9mk ALBA, 10 weeks old, making their 5th to 6th leaves Other seedlings, 8 weeks old, from 3rd to 4th leaves Edited February 28, 2014 by snowwy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veek Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 I find using a small screwdriver is a good way to repot seedlings. Just push the root into the soil with one. You won't break the root. Do you mean make a hole with the screwdriver and then put the root of the seedling in it or just pushing the seedlingroot inside the ground with the small screwdriver? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowwy Posted October 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 Update with 10-month-old seedlings dsds 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veek Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Some of them seems to have grown very big already. Nice job snowwy. I wish some of mine were already that big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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