Hostage Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 Hi all I was wondering if anyone can help me? I've looked through some of the posts but can't seem to find an answer to how to get rid of Aphids on Nepenthes. What is safe to use? There is also another bug on it. A small speckled type thing?! They are about twice the size of a small aphid. Please help before the plant dies on me!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sheila Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 Provado can be safely used on Nepenthes and being systemic will give good protection for several weeks after treatment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 I'm sold on the stuff since I learned about it here. Just out of curiosity, do you have Lady Bird Beetles over there? The larva fit the brief description and often are found feeding on aphids here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sheila Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 Heres a link to a few photos of ladybird larvae. http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&am...ladybird+larvae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 Provado is a good mild systemic (neonicotinoid) poison. I would, however, use it with care. Some Nepenthes really dislike it. An alternative that worked for me was flea collars. These usually have diazinon or similar organophosphates as the active ingredient. The advantage is that you can localise treatment. Diazinon is not systemic so repeat treatments may be necessary. In any case whenever handling either substance I would suggest using rubber washing-up type gloves (discard after use and wash hands thoroughly). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sheila Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 I've never had a problem using it on Nepenthes but then I only have 10 plants. Two of those are ventrata and the rest are all relatively easy ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amori Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 I've used Provado on: aristolochioides hamata diatas mikei macrophylla ephippiata copelandii argentii inermis talangensis glabrata jacquelineae and a few morewith no ill effects. Personally I'd like to find out which fungicides are safe! Cheers Amaury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 Slightly off topic but may be useful. Myclobutanil (Fungus Fighter) has worked relatively well for me so far...if applied in a localised manner. I have used it on ampullaria, x trichocarpa and x 'ventrinermis' (so far). With ampullaria local dosing is essential (at least in my case, obliterates pitcher production for several months). The other two seem unaffected. As is often the case sporadic reapplication is necessary (fungus is surpressed but not dead). As to Provado I should add I have little experience in treating small plants. Aphids and scale have been on larger plants only (I have no idea whether this is typical or not; anyone?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hostage Posted February 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 thanks very much everyone for their help!! just going to order provado now! would this work on my other cp's in my greenhouse - sarracenia's, vft's, and drosera's? also, had a look at the other 'things' but they aren't ladybird larvae. They just seem like large aphids that have two stripes across their body!!? any clues? wish i had a digital camera to get a photo to show you. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Sorry to go off topic...There are older threads on Provado and sarracenias (search). Works ok. Vft's also in my experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aidan Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 The usual caveat regarding Drosera - don't apply insecticides as a spray. Use a soil-drench if required. Provado is available as both spray and soil-drench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sheila Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 I always buy the soil drench because it is safe on all the carnivorous plants. The only one I'm not too sure of using it on is Drosophyllum because mine shrivelled up after using it, but it was in a bad state before the provado and could have been dieing anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hostage Posted February 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 oh so your best buying the soil drench. well i've just got the ready made spray, so i'm best leaving everything except the nepenthes and sarracenia? thanks once again for all your help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sheila Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Pings are probably ok with the spray as well. Just don't spray your Drosera or Drosophyllum, everything else is fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hostage Posted March 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 well here's an update! I used the Provado spray and within a day the plant had been fried!! so a lesson has been learned! DO NOT USE PROVADO SPRAY FOR NEPENTHES! :? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 How much did you spray? I always use Provado, but in very small quantities. I find that just one good squirt per plant is enough, even if only a few leaves are hit. I just sprayed all my Sarracenia and Dionaea a few days ago with it to provide protection as there was an infestation of aphids and whitefly on a couple of the Diaonea. Again, I sprayed only once and all the bugs are dead and they are fine. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hostage Posted March 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 maybe i sprayed too much then?! I probably sprayed for a few seconds. Next time i'll try just a quick spray and see how it goes. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 you sprayed constantly for a few seconds? Yup, I think you overdosed it then! Ah well, at least you know for next time eh :) We all make mistakes like this at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aidan Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Which version did you purchase, the aerosol or the pump-spray? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicon Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 I think with the aerosol Provado you must spray from a distance as the propellant can burn the plant tissue! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hostage Posted March 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 i sused the aerosol. I did spray it from a distance - probably around a couple of feet. but sounds like i've sprayed too much cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aidan Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 I think with the aerosol Provado you must spray from a distance as the propellant can burn the plant tissue! Quite and it is also a different formulation. The aerosol has an additional insecticide included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhaverland413 Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 if one cannot obtain provado, what would work? I have heard ortho is good but I am tentative to go all out and risk frying my neps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aidan Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 The Bayer Advanced range contains the same active ingredient (Imidacloprid) as Provado and appears to be the equivalent US product. The formulation is slightly different but it should perform in the same manner. Test application on a plant first prior to treating your entire collection! http://www.bayeradvanced.com/productFamily...lower-care.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manders Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 Are aphids really that big a problem on neps? The odd one or too i've ever found i've just wiped off. Do they ever get serious infestations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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