johns Posted April 29, 2011 Report Share Posted April 29, 2011 I wonder if there are any Sarracenia species or hybrids other than purpurea ssp. purpurea that might do OK outdoors here in Oslo (climate link). Are there e.g. any hybrids involving purpurea ssp. purpurea that are also very cold hardy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenofeden Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 I have a hybrid of Sarracenia flava and purpurea ssp. purpurea which is very cold hardy. I have been trying to raise more cold hardy hybrids myself, and have quite a lot of seedlings of leucophylla crossed with purpurea ssp purpurea coming on, but they are still very small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogster Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 I think Flava's are worth a go. I've had them growing outside in a container in NW UK for the last 15 years or so. The only protection they get is a double layer of fleece from about November to March. The container is large and undrained, in winter if we've had no rain I water it, otherwise it just looks after is self. Some winters it'll be flooded and frozen well over the top of the rhizomes, the plants still come back in spring. Plants can get dry outside even in winter, I've lost outdoor plants by not watering them in winter, its easy to forget about them. Now I make sure my outdoor plants get plenty of water and they seem to thrive. Dessication seems to be the issue rather than freezing in water. Last winter was very cold for the UK, below -10c for extended periods, all the Sarra's I have growing outside seem to be coming back OK. The Flava's are flowering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will9 Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 If i see your climate is like where we live,the only difference is the light,you have allmost 2 hours lesser light in winter.I not know if this make any difference ? I grow all sarras outside(see my growlist) whitout any problems,the last 3 winters where very cold whit freezing till -21° (one time 2 years ago) My plants are in a bog ,i give no protection at all,till now i lost outside not one plant,you can grow even binata,capensis and VFT whitout any problems. This year in february i have set a lot of sarras in my greenhousse, for see the difference in grow.In my greenhousse the plants grow match faster and are much biggger,she looks better then outside ,outside the plants are not so beautyfull and not growing fast. I think outside the growing seasson is at least 2 months lesser then inside. So you can try every sarra ,i am sure you have no problems if you set in a bog ,or even in big pots standing in 5 to 10 cm water,but give not any protection ,plants are very winterhardy. You must planted out in spring for give the plants time to make roots and grow before winter begins,i think in June is the limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James O'Neill Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 Oreophila, jonesii, flava, I think are worth a go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johns Posted May 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 Thanks for the replies. I think I will start with a purpurea ssp. purpurea hybrid, then maybe one of the pure species next year if that goes well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diva Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 You'de be hard pressed to kill a purpurea purpurea they grow way up into Canada (and survive happily at several uk sites) it's the state/provincial plant of nova scotia! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johns Posted May 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 You'de be hard pressed to kill a purpurea purpurea they grow way up into Canada (and survive happily at several uk sites) it's the state/provincial plant of nova scotia! I have one already. It did just fine over the winter (it had an easy one though, insulated by snow), and it managed to keep a few pitchers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenofeden Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 I tried several species outside in Scotland for many years. Sarracenia purpurea ssp. purpurea was the only one that did reliably well, flava survived but got smaller, Darlingtonia grew like a weed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogster Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 Oreophila, jonesii, flava, I think are worth a go. Yes, after last winter my Oreophila Sand Mountain is growing strongly and is my first plant with open pitchers this year. Seems to have liked the cold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johns Posted May 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Bumping this as I'd like to ask about more commonly available Sarracenia hybrids. Are there any found in garden centers that might survive outdoors here? I remember seeing pictures of Sarracenia x catesbaei introduced on a Danish bog, so perhaps that might be worth a try? (I don't think I've seen S. flava or any other pure species for sale.) The reason for the question is that I realized that I need a CITES certificate when buying Sarracenia from outside Norway, which makes it too expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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