Mr. Son Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 (edited) Take some many photo from wild Nepenthes in Tay Ninh pro, have many spec need name !!! Have to many photo in here ! Click and join Edited August 26, 2011 by Mr. Son Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sockhom Posted August 28, 2011 Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 Hello, That's Nepenthes smilesii for sure. François. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christerb Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 Interesting. I have read that tendril length is supposed to be relatively short on N . smilesii. From seeing these photos, that trait must be a unreliable way to identify this species then. I also noticed the the Cambodian variety of N. kampotiana in another topic here had quite short tendrils, not much different from N. smilesii. Regards, Christer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sockhom Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 (edited) Hi Christer, Having seen more smilesii and kampotiana populations after my last trips, I have to say I fully agree with you. The length of the tendril is not consistant depending on which population is observed. It can also be variable within a same population (although it remained true that smilesii often develops quite short tendrils). I will deal with that matter and with the relation between kampotiana and smilesii in a forthcoming paper. All the best, François. Edited September 1, 2011 by Sockhom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Green Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 (edited) I look forward to that paper Francois. Christer - This caused me confusion recently. I had a long email with Marcello to clear things up, because I was also under the impression smilesii had short tendrils. He confirmed that they can also have long tendrils - which some I've had from him did (hense I was confused). Mr Son - very nice looking plants in your pic's. I particularly like those in pic 1 & 3 Thanks for showing us them. edit - WOW, I've just looked at all those photo's (i never expected so many). They show a nice lot of variation in pitcher shape. Shame this is as close as I'm likely to get to seeing them. Edited September 1, 2011 by Phil Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christerb Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 Hi François, and Phil, Thanks for replies, that clears thing up. Had the tendril statement been dated, then I wouldn't have seen surprised, since there seem to have been a lack of up-to-date information about IC species for some years. What got me wondering was that this has been mentioned in recent times in both publications, and fora. François, great to hear there will be new information published that will be helpful to get a better understanding of these plants. It almost feels like now is an golden age for anyone interesting in this group of Nepenthes. All thanks to the work that you, and others have done while traveling in Indochina. Regards, Christer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sockhom Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 (edited) Hi Phil and Christer, I reckon this tendril thing is a mistake as it is not always consistent. I found several populations of smilesii this year that quite often develops long tendril. I wil thus correct this in one of my forthcoming paper, one dealing with the relation between smilesii and kampotiana, two highly polymorphic species. Having seen kampotiana for the first time (as far as I am concerned), new populations of smilesii and the true thorelii really gave me a clear understanding of the group and I will provide, with a couple of co-authors, a clear cut understanding of all those taxa. I will do my best to get rid of that "IC" confusion ( not talking about all those IC horticultural hybrids). I don't know about that "golden age" but, to me, it is quite moving to follow the step of Thorel, Geoffray, Lecomte, Pierre, Hemsley & al. All the best, François. Edited September 3, 2011 by Sockhom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Evans Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 Hello, That's Nepenthes smilesii for sure. Dear François, I'm doubtful about this ID. If that is N. s., it appears to be introgressed with another species... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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