Short Teeth question

[piscesilim]

This is my Short Teeth. Grow it quite some times already. But no sign of "Short Teeth". May I know what condition it need to become Short Teeth?

Edited September 2, 2010 by piscesilim

[FlytrapCare]

That doesn't look like an authentic "Short Teeth" clone to me. Where did you source that plant from?

[mantrid]

This is my Short Teeth. Grow it quite some times already. But no sign of "Short Teeth". May I know what condition it need to become Short Teeth?

Yes this is a common problem. Other varieties to avoid for not living up to expectation are

Red Line

Yellow fused tooth

Funnel trap

People are either being plain deceitful or too keen to name a variety that occasionally shows some variation in some traps for part of the growing season. My opinion is that a variety should only be named if the trait is permenant or at least present most of the time.

Edited September 2, 2010 by mantrid

[toimeme]

Yes this is a common problem. Other varieties to avoid for not living up to expectation are

Red Line

Yellow fused tooth

Funnel trap

People are either being plain deceitful or too keen to name a variety that occasionally shows some variation in some traps for part of the growing season. My opinion is that a variety should only be named if the trait is permenant or at least present most of the time.

yellow fused tooth is sometimes yellow and teeth are fused, funnel trap have some charactéristics trap every years at my home, in spring it made crestate on petiol and after in summer in full sun and less water it made some funnel trap.

Some cultivar are always special like bohemian garnet or red piranah or coquillage, louchapates etc but some other like fused tooth, fondue, mirror have special look only under specifics conditions, full sun in summer etc.

[FRUIT DROP]

I bought a yellow fused tooth years ago from a reputable source and not once has it produced a fused tooth trap - just looks like a normal toothed yellow trap.

Others don't grow true aswell - minutissimum reverts back to a typical vft after a while.

Fred

[toimeme]

I bought a yellow fused tooth years ago from a reputable source and not once has it produced a fused tooth trap - just looks like a normal toothed yellow trap.

Others don't grow true aswell - minutissimum reverts back to a typical vft after a while.

Fred

if you take one fused, the real one registred cultivar or yellow fused and put it in full sun it make fused teeth, same plant but not in full sun and you haven't got fused teeth.

i can post some picts of my yellow fused tooth, and teeth are fused, less than the vft named 'fused tooth' registred by d'amato but yellow fused is fused every years at my home, but for me it is more green than yellow.

for minutissimum the clone from triffid park revert back to typical but there is another clone, i have from 3 years ago and it is stabil, always very little, now lot of people have it, you can ask for this clone it is the more little clone of vft and it is stabil.

my minutissimum picts took last years, in the second one you can saw neotenic pygmy near minutissimum(picts are on cpphotofinder but it's my picts)

Minutissimum and cudo in same pot and near it is neotenic Pygmy from plantev.

Edited September 2, 2010 by toimeme

[FRUIT DROP]

Hi again,

My yellow fused tooth is in full sun all the time but still no fused teeth

It came from the vft shop so should be the correct plant.

Fred

[toimeme]

sur it's correct plant if it cames from trev and vftshop, i think it's your growing conditions.

this is picts of mine took just there is 5 minutes ago, it is not very very fused but it is fused, more green than yellow in my opinion(yellow just sometimes)

[mantrid]

sur it's correct plant if it cames from trev and vftshop, i think it's your growing conditions.

this is picts of mine took just there is 5 minutes ago, it is not very very fused but it is fused, more green than yellow in my opinion(yellow just sometimes)

My so called yellow fused tooth is also in full sun and it hasnt produced a single fused tooth.

I also dont like the way people describe vfts as yellow. Yellowness is just an indication of having lots of sun. Most of my vfts change from green to yellow in good sunlight.

You say your yellow fused tooth is in full sun to develop the fused teeth, so how come it is green? If its green in full sun then how can it be a yellow fused tooth?

Also your picture only shows two traps with fused teeth and one of these is not that good. I bet the rest of the traps are unfused. In my opinion having a couple of traps with poorly fused teeth is not good enough to give it a special name.

My dingley giant often develops occasional fused teeth and so has other vfts of mine, more so than my yellow fused tooth. So in my opinion if a plant is to be called fused tooth it should have mainly fused teeth.

[toimeme]

Also your picture only shows two traps with fused teeth and one of these is not that good.

i have two pot with yellow fused tooth, in first one thre is 4 trap with some fused teeth.

i have more than 2 traps with fused teeth, i'll make some news picts this afternoon.

just one trap, and for me it's fused

Why it have some fused tteth and it is not yellow at my home ? and why it is not fused at your home ?

depend on your growing conditions.

Who's named this plant ?i don't know but not me.

i don't say it is very fused, i'm just saying at my home i have some fused teeht every years,not a lot like the true clone named "fused tooth" but i always have some fused teeth.

dingley giant, in my opinion this is another clone that was named but nothing very particular.

Lot of plant are named but they haven't got lot of interesting charactéristics.

Edited September 3, 2010 by toimeme

[piscesilim]

This Short Teeth originated from VFT Shop. According to VFT Shop, the Short Teeth mutation is expressed only in the summer. I live in Malaysia. The weather just like summer all year long. One of my Taiwan friend has this VFT too. His Short Teeth also looks just like typical VFT during the summer. Is there anyone got this VFT which showing the short teeth character?

Edited September 3, 2010 by piscesilim

[piscesilim]

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[LJ]

My short teeth has produced the weird traps its supposed to but like is said above it is not present all the time and does depend on growing conditions. Try leaving it in natural sun all year and full sun all day.

EDIT - Perhaps its your climate being in Malaysia? if its like summer all year round then perhaps you wont get these traps, it might require changes in natural seasons, spring, summer, autum etc as it would have naturally in the UK (or indeed in its own natural environment).

My yellow fused tooth does produce some fused teeth too. Not as many as the traditional fused teeth and is more upright. There is also the cp4 clone whcih is upright with fused teeth but I dont grow this one.

I dont like the yellow description of it though or the plant named yellow. Neither seem very yellow to me :) Perhaps more so towards the very end of the season but its not really enough to call it yellow imo.

[piscesilim]

Hi, LJ. May I know at what season your Short Teeth produce weird traps ?

Edited September 5, 2010 by piscesilim

[Trev]

The VFT Shop Short Teeth clone originally came from Stefan Lessen. It only grow the weird short teeth mid summer and only when mature.

Yellow Fused Teeth also only seems to produce traps with the middle group of teeth fused together in mid summer and on mature healthy plants. It also originally came to us from Stefan.

Funnel Trap as I have written here several times, seems to be producing less and less funnelled traps as the years go by but does continue to grow the feathered petioles. It was created by Dr Eberhardt Koing of Germany.

Please research clones or ask me for advice before you buy them so you know exactly what you are buying.

Trev.

[publicizer]

this is my short teeth:

http://www.cpukforum.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=37007

and this is the same plant today:

this is the same today: