piscesilim Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Is it C. beteroniana? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An D Smith Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Hi Lim Yes, that is definately Catopsis berteroniana. Cheers Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piscesilim Posted June 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 (edited) Hi LimYes, that is definately Catopsis berteroniana. Cheers Andy May I know what is the main characteristic of C. berteroniana? Check through this website. Some Catopsis species are quite similar. http://fcbs.org/pictures/Catopsis.htm Edited June 11, 2009 by piscesilim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Stewart Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 (edited) Hello, I do not think you have a Catopsis berteroniana. It looks like the petals of the flowers are longer than the sepals of your very well grown plant. In Catopsis berteroniana the sepals are longer than the petals. I agree that many Catopsis species look very similar. I have grown many C. berteroniana and they are more powdery than the plant you show. I have posted photographs in the past, on this forum, of one of the C. berteroniana plants I have grown, and it's seedlings. Unfortunately I did not take high quality photographs of the flowers close up. (they are not showy) An exact description from the state of Florida, where C. berteroniana is listed as endangered. " Catopsis berteroniana (J.A. and J.H. Schultes) Mez. epiphyte; rosettes to 7 dm tall; lvs yellowish green, white powdery covering; scape stout, erect, with 15-50 flrs; petals white, shorter than sepals; anthers open daytime; seeds sprout on capsule; tidal swamp, rockland hammocks; (Collier), Dade and Monroe [not keys] cos; all year." I am now growing another species of Catopsis that I believe is C. floribunda, and it has more powder on it's leaves than your plant. Do not think less of your plant, it may well be a very rare species! It does not look exactly like any of the photographs in the link you provided. I have never read any information about possible hybrids in the genus Catopsis. A keen eye for taxonomic characteristics may prove valuable for the future of this genus! Take care, Steven Stewart Florida, USA Edited June 14, 2009 by Steve Stewart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piscesilim Posted June 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Hello,I do not think you have a Catopsis berteroniana. It looks like the petals of the flowers are longer than the sepals of your very well grown plant. In Catopsis berteroniana the sepals are longer than the petals. I agree that many Catopsis species look very similar. I have grown many C. berteroniana and they are more powdery than the plant you show. I have posted photographs in the past, on this forum, of one of the C. berteroniana plants I have grown, and it's seedlings. Unfortunately I did not take high quality photographs of the flowers close up. (they are not showy) An exact description from the state of Florida, where C. berteroniana is listed as endangered. " Catopsis berteroniana (J.A. and J.H. Schultes) Mez. epiphyte; rosettes to 7 dm tall; lvs yellowish green, white powdery covering; scape stout, erect, with 15-50 flrs; petals white, shorter than sepals; anthers open daytime; seeds sprout on capsule; tidal swamp, rockland hammocks; (Collier), Dade and Monroe [not keys] cos; all year." I am now growing another species of Catopsis that I believe is C. floribunda, and it has more powder on it's leaves than your plant. Do not think less of your plant, it may well be a very rare species! It does not look exactly like any of the photographs in the link you provided. I have never read any information about possible hybrids in the genus Catopsis. A keen eye for taxonomic characteristics may prove valuable for the future of this genus! Take care, Steven Stewart Florida, USA Thanks. Steven. How can I know the petals are longer than the sepals? Should I dissect the flower to measure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Stewart Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Lim, It would be (always is) best to dissect a few flowers for conclusive identification. On my plants of Catopsis berteroninana the flowers petals were hidden by the sepals when they were open, but I did dissect a few for measurements, as I was taking a field botany course at the time, and was being certain about the ID. I have seen many photographs of Catopsis species flowering that were supposed to be C. berteroniana, but were either hybrids or some other species. Take care, Steven Stewart Florida, USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Green Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 I've got no idea, but the pic in that link shows the petals of Catopsis berteroninana as longer than the sepals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Stewart Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 I've got no idea, but the pic in that link shows the petals of Catopsis berteroninana as longer than the sepals. I noticed that as well. Take care, Steven Stewart Florida, USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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