Rico Hiemann Posted December 2, 2003 Report Share Posted December 2, 2003 Does these pictures show Drosera spec. Auyan Tepui? http://virtuelle.gefil.de/~chrusty/bilder/...cauyantepui.jpg http://virtuelle.gefil.de/~chrusty/bilder/...auyantepui1.jpg http://virtuelle.gefil.de/~chrusty/bilder/...auyantepui2.jpg http://virtuelle.gefil.de/~chrusty/bilder/...auyantepui3.jpg Thanks Rico Hiemann (My plants: http://virtuelle.gefil.de/~chrusty/fstart.php ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando Rivadavia Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 What an interesting plant!! It sort of looks like D.brevifolia, but not completely. Also reminds me of a small D.spatulata though. Could it be a hybrid? Does this hybrid exist at all? Or maybe it's something in the D.cayennensis complex... Don't forget to photograph the flowers and tell us what the seeds are like! Fernando Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Hiemann Posted December 13, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2003 A small update :) The first flower stalk :) http://virtuelle.gefil.de/~chrusty/bilder/...auyantepui4.jpg http://virtuelle.gefil.de/~chrusty/bilder/...auyantepui5.jpg http://virtuelle.gefil.de/~chrusty/bilder/...auyantepui6.jpg http://virtuelle.gefil.de/~chrusty/bilder/...auyantepui7.jpg The sepals looks very interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langy Posted February 8, 2004 Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 Hi, all Heres a picture of the plant that I have labelled as Drosera sp. Auyan Tepui. As you can see from the picture, this plant does not look like D. spathulata (as most D. sp. Auyan Tepui do). It has a rather broad leaf petiol, and an almost circular laminar and totally none pubescent, the plant is approx 1.5cm accross (1inch) Unfortunatley it has yet to flower for me, but when it does I shall post some pictures of them. What does everyone else here think of this plant, and D. sp. Auyan Tepui in general? Does this plant exist? Or is it just another person dealing bogus plants to increase thier own collection with genuine plants? (Not that the source of my plant deals in bogus named plants) Drosera sp. Auyan Tepui :wavey: Langy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundewmatt Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Hi Langly. It doesn't look like anything I know to be from Auyan Tepui. Looks more S.African to me. Maybe D.dielsiana? Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langy Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Hi, Matt I do not belive that my plant is D. dielsiana, due to the fact that its totally devoid of any stipular hairs, which D. dielisana has. Also D. dielsiana has spathulate leaves, and my plant in the picture has circular leaves. What do all you other Drosera growers out there think of the Drosera sp. Auyan Tepui authentisity issue? :wavey: Langy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Hiemann Posted February 10, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 The plants are still to small to identify them correctly. But if I compare your with my plants(first post), they could be this "spec. Auyan Tepui" . I will harvest seeds next week and will post a picture of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epbb Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 I have identified pictures of Drosera from Roraima. Maybe it should be close ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binataboy Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 Rico, your plant looks very similar to spatulata I have seen growing here in Australia. The scapes do look different however as most SE Australian spats have many more flowers per scape. I would keep an eye on these and if possible post some pics of the seed when you get some. This should help ID the plant. Also what colour are the flowers? I will try to post some pics for you to compare. Where did the seeds originate from? Any chance they got mixed with the Beenak spats? The pics you sent me of the Beenak spats look a bit different to mine (they are variable depending on growing conditions) but these plants look a lot closer. Just an idea... George Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binataboy Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 I tried to get a few pics but the weather sucks at the moment, it is getting dark and is rather overcast so didn't do to good. Not to metion that my Beenak spats look real ratty at the moment thanks to this lack of summer!! So the best pic I have is this rather old one... I had a look at the flower buds and they do seem diferent :? http://members.optushome.com.au/chfr/beenakspat.htm George Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odysseus Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 Rico, Any flower pics? Not just the scapes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipster Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 Hi all, I've just seen that this plant was in fact a red form of Drosera spatulata........is it true? And what about the location? Some say it does not come from a tepui, some say (as Matt) it's a S.A. sp.... I have some seeds and I want to put a name on them :!: Please tell us what's up 8) regards, Romain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Fleischmann Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 Hello! This plant for sure is NOT from Auyan Tepui, I don't even believe that it's South American! I would agree that it's a member of the D. spatulata group. Langy, BOTH D. spatulata and D. dielsiana do have papery stipules! And if you looked at the first photos of the rosette that Rico has posted, you can clearly spot out the stipules in his plant, too. I know of 2 different Venezuelan Drosera that had been introduced into cultivation as "D. spec. Auyan Tepui" in the past: The first plant labelled as "D. spec. Auyan" that appeared in German collections in the 80ies (probably introduced by famous Harald Weiner) was D. arenicola. Unfortunately, this plants seem to be lost again from cultivation soon. But you can ID this plant easily from pictures, there's even one in an old issue of CPN if I remembered correctly. All future spreadings of a "D. spec. Auyan" might result from seed mix-ups, maybe even from D. spatulata that came up in the same pot than the spent D. arenicola? More seed/plant mix-ups turned up recently as "D. spec. Auyan", may of them are either D. spatulata forms or D. natalensis/dielsiana. More recently, D. felix had been collected on Auyan tepui and seed was offered to some Drosera growers labelled as "D. spec. Auyan Tepui". I grow this plant among others, and I did already trade seed of this plant, BUT labelled correctly as D. felix 'Auyan Tepui'. Sundewmatt sent me back a plant labelled as "D. kaieteurensis 'Auyan Tepui'", but it's D. felix as well, NOT kaieteurensis! Matt, does this plant originate from the same batch of seeds? I never saw any photograph of D. kaieteurensis from the summit of Auyan, whereas D. felix is found rather commonly there. D. kaieteurensis is more restricted to high elevtion points of La Gran Sabana and the Kaieuter Plateau of the Guianas. AFAIK, there are no other Drosera to be expected from the huge summit of Auyan tepui than: D. roraimae D. felix D. arenicola (those 3 are already reported from Auyan) D. hirticalyx (well expected to grow there!!) maybe even D. kaieteurensis. Anything that looks different from the species listed above (especially if it does not look like a South American Drosera! ;)) is likely to be a result of mixed up plants in cultivation! ;) All the best, Andreas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundewmatt Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 hi andreas i can tell the difference between kaieteurensis and felix :) ive got to check my labels and get back to you. m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipster Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 Thank you so Andreas So if I understand, a lot of Drosera are labelled under this name :? So the only solution I have is to see what the seeds will give... By the way there is one D. sp "Auyan Tepui" at Lyon's botanical garden, have a look : I doubt these coming from Africa :arrow: so what is this ps: what mean "AFAIK" :?: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundewmatt Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 the pics above look like roraimae to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V.J.Treasure Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 ... D. arenicola. Unfortunately, this plants seem to be lost again from cultivation soon ... Are you sure? Matthias Teichert posted picture of his D.arenicola not too long ago and it should be the true one: http://forum.carnivoren.org/topic.php?id=9939& Greetings, Valentin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundewmatt Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 ive got true arenicola too, but i think hes saying the actual collection lorenz and butschi made appears to be no longer in cultivation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andreas Eils Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 ps: what mean "AFAIK" :?: As Far As I Know, I guess. Like many very busy botanists Mr. Fleischmann seems to have a fondness for such abbreviations! Like IMHO, AAMOF, ASAP... Andreas Ah, by the way: For several years there was a plant listed named D. auyantepuiensis :? - what about that one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipster Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 ps: what mean "AFAIK" :?: As Far As I Know, I guess. Like many very busy botanists Mr. Fleischmann seems to have a fondness for such abbreviations! Like IMHO, AAMOF, ASAP... ok thank you ... It will be ok for the others :arrow: Never heard about D. auyantepuiensis :? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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