Guest clairem Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 Hi everyone, I finally got my terririum up and running and the Neps are doing fine but my Heli has gone into decline, i read the other post by naryn about the sudden Heli death (didn't really understand Trichoderma bit) and was wondering if anyone could tell me if my Heli death is fungus or poor conditions. the other Cp's in there seem to be doing ok, the Nep next to won't stop growing! The humidity is high with a night time temp drop, the substrate drains well and is never too damp, the light levels i think are ok, and up until this week it was growing 10-12 new baby pitchers! HELP! Any help would be hugely appreciated Claire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Ebert Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 it looks like a fungus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest clairem Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 it looks like a fungus is it anything i've done wrong? will anything prevent it happening again? Claire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Ebert Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 I had the same problem on few plants and they died I didn't really understand what's appened, apparently it depends from high temperatures during the day and a bad cooling during the night, but I'm not the expert. Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Evans Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 I think the plant had too little air flow. This will be fine for Nepenthes as they have really strong immune systems, but not for Heliamphora. Also, I strong suspect the temperatures are not correct for Heliamphora as you have a very happy looking N. gracilis growing right next to it. N. gracilis would not be happy with good Heliaphora conditions. The airflow has to be higher, the lighting levels higher and the night time temps about 10 degrees C. cooler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest clairem Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 I think the plant had too little air flow. This will be fine for Nepenthes as they have really strong immune systems, but not for Heliamphora. Also, I strong suspect the temperatures are not correct for Heliamphora as you have a very happy looking N. gracilis growing right next to it. N. gracilis would not be happy with good Heliaphora conditions. The airflow has to be higher, the lighting levels higher and the night time temps about 10 degrees C. cooler. Ah right ok, are there any pitcher plants that would be good in these conditions, its a display viv in a public aquaria so i'd like a range of CP's in there? So far there is N. sanguinea, N, ventrata, D. aliciea, and 2 U longifoliaall of which seem to be doing ok. i'll try dropping the temp a little more at night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Evans Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 It is simply too far from their ideal conditions, I would just not cultivate Heliamphora in the display case. Don't worry about changing the conditions for one plant when all the rest are happy. Instead, you could easily cultivate many Mexican Pinguicula in there, those without a dry dormancy... Or Drosera like D. schizandra, D. adelae and D. prolifera are really good terrarium growers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Copeland Posted May 6, 2011 Report Share Posted May 6, 2011 How large is this public display? If it were large enough you could grow the different species at different strata within the enclosure. The main thing is that Helis really need the light, the coldness day and night, and the ACTIVE air movement 24/7. Possibly put the helis at one end with a fan and bright light and drip irrigation and use other plants to set up screening to adjust air impact and humidity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan F. Posted May 6, 2011 Report Share Posted May 6, 2011 Too wet and the light too weak plus high humidity = root and pitcher rot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose R Posted May 7, 2011 Report Share Posted May 7, 2011 I too have had this problem with my Heliamphoras. In Australia I found a fungicide called Fongorid and since beginning to use it several years ago I have not lost a single plant. I also had it attack some of my Nepenthes so I suggest you get the Heliamphora out of your display if you have not already done so as it looks too far gone anyway. Good luck... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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