Julio Alberto Posted August 4, 2007 Report Share Posted August 4, 2007 Hello. A few months ago I received this plant labeled as P. jaumavensis. Now the plant has flowered and it is not actually P. jaumavensis but possibly P. debbertiana, isn't it? The flower is not fully open but I believe we can identify the plant easyly. Here is the flower: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napraforgo Posted August 4, 2007 Report Share Posted August 4, 2007 Yes, it does look more like P.debbertiana than P.jaumavensis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Weinberger Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 This flower is typicall for Pinguicula debbertiana. Regards Christian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julio Alberto Posted August 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 (edited) Thanks for the answers. The flower is full open now: But now I have some doubts... The shape of the flower reminds me more to the jaumavensis flower, but que hairy yellow spot is typical in debbertiana. Hybrid? debbertiana strange flower? Edited August 11, 2007 by Julio Alberto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Weinberger Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 But now I have some doubts... The shape of the flower reminds me more to the jaumavensis flower, but que hairy yellow spot is typical in debbertiana. Hybrid? debbertiana strange flower? Hello Julio! Well I still think it´s a debbertiana. Flowers are quite variable and the leaves reminds me much more to debbertiana, than jaumavensis. But it´s not impossible that I´m mistaken. By the way I searched for informations for debbertiana x jaumavensis or the other way arround several weeks ago, but couldn´t find anything. I made this crossing by myself, but it will take a few months until this hybrid will flower... Regards Christian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic brown Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 P. debbertiana has a very distinct split, hairy, yellow spot in the throat at the top of the lower middle lobe. The hairy spot on Julio's plant doen't appear distinct enough in my opinion - I could be wrong though! Here are a couple of P. debbertiana forms which both show the yellow spot. Typical P. debbertiana White-flowered form of P. debbertiana None of my forms of P. jaumavensis show a hairy yellow spot in the throat. P. jaumavensis "La Melara" P. jaumavensis "Cardonal" By the way I searched for informations for debbertiana x jaumavensis or the other way arround several weeks ago, but couldn´t find anything. I made this crossing by myself, but it will take a few months until this hybrid will flower... You can't have searched very hard! :) Oliver Gluch's registered cultivar, Pinguicula 'Florian' is a selected clone of the cross P. debbertiana x jaumavensis See: P. 'Florian CPN' and P. 'Florian Oliver Gluch Web Site' It does have a hairy yellow spot and is a likely candidate for Julio's plant in my view. P. 'Florian' Vic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Weinberger Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 You can't have searched very hard! :) Sorry, I´ve mixed it up with debbertiana x cyclosecta. I think I´m getting old:rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julio Alberto Posted August 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 (edited) Oliver Gluch's registered cultivar, Pinguicula 'Florian' is a selected clone of the cross P. debbertiana x jaumavensis See: P. 'Florian CPN' and P. 'Florian Oliver Gluch Web Site'It does have a hairy yellow spot and is a likely candidate for Julio's plant in my view. For me too. I have looking at more pictures of that cultivar, specially those that are shown in the same shop where I bought my plants, and flowers are quite similar. Edited August 12, 2007 by Julio Alberto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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