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Genlisea ID???


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Steve,

I pretty sure its G. lobata x violacea. My plant hasn't flowered yet, its just putting up its first scape, but it does look very similar to these photos http://www-cp.stech.co.jp/cp/utri/G-lobata_X_violacea_e.html.

Vic

Vic

I have lxv as well, which is a bigger, more robust plant than the 1 in question. it does look like the photo though...

The plant sets fertile seed, so thought it is poss not a hybrid. are Genlisea hybrids fertile? Also, came from wild seed.

I thought it may be pure lobata?

Stephen

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These photographs of G. lobata, on the same site, look fairly similar to your plant, so maybe it is this species; http://www-cp.stech.co.jp/cp/utri/G-lobata_e.html. Most other photographs I've seen at Bob Z's site http://www.humboldt.edu/~rrz7001/Genlisea.html look a bit different though. I don't know anything about the variability in the flowers of this species, but if they are from wild-collected seed, I would imagine the pure species is much more likely.

Vic

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Hi Stephen,

the flower looks completely like my Ge. lobata x violacea. I justed posted a picture on an ebay auction (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIt...gory=40609&rd=1).

What size does your flower have? My Ge. lobata's flowers are up to 5 mm wide, the hybrid's flower is significantly larger.

If you are interested, I can send you a few Genlisea flower pictures by mail (I still haven't set up a strike9 account yet).

Just in case somebody wants to see it for himself: I still have lots of spare plants of this hybrid.

Regards,

Dieter

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Hi Stephen,

after comparing my plants in more detail, I would expect your plant to be a pure Ge. lobata.

Here is a my Ge. lobata:

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and here Ge. lobata x violacea (a little darker to emphasize the purple touch)

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both of them in one picture (hybride on the left, Ge. lobata on the right):

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When comparing the flowers you will notice the difference in flower size (diameters Ge. lobata 0.7 mm vs. hybride 1.0 mm), flower shape and coloration. The lower part of this Ge. lobata flower is white while the hybride does have a sligthly purple touch.

Regarding the fertility of this hybride: My plants did at least set some seeds, but I did not sow them.

Regards,

Dieter

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This is a great plant but it occasionally has the annoying tendancy of dying back after flowring. I suggest allowing the media to dry a little between waterings and take leaf cuttings to ensure that it is not lost

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  • 1 month later...

Being the one responsible for introducing G.lobata and most G.violacea forms into cultivation, I thought I should comment.

I do not know the hybrid well, since it is artificial (both species are geographically separated in the wild) , but the pics posted all look like G.lobata to me. The variations in flower size are nothing that I wouldn't expect to see in the wild. Remember that we usually cultivate CLONES, but that in the wild there is often lots of variation in any natural population.

But I can see how the larger one could be a hybrid, if the mother parent was a G.lobata. It's still surprising that the hybrid would look so much more like one of the parents

Both have hairy scapes, although G.violacea is extremely variable. Both species are also annuals in the wild, but can survive as perenials in cultivation, with the mentioned problem of suddenly deciding to act like an annual for unknown reasons...

I was interested to hear that the hybrid is FERTILE. So is this really true? Produces as much seed as the parents? These 2 species are truly very close, so it does not surprise me. Among several new species of Genlisea I've found in Brazil, one is possibly a natural hybrid. I still haven't been able to figure it out though...

Fernando

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