Trev Posted June 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 Hi Guilluame, That's odd! What about Dentata, Dentate, Heterodoxa & Prostratus, are they not latin as well? Who has told you this? Trev. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobZ Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 That's odd! What about Dentata, Dentate, Heterodoxa & Prostatus, are they not latin as well?Who has told you this? I remember reading this somewhere. I think it is briefly discussed at the ICPS Web site about registering cultivars. http://www.carnivorousplants.org/cultivars/register.html For an unregistered bogus name, you can call it anything, but there are rules about official registered names. Latin names are OK for Genus and species names, but I do not believe Dentata, Dentate, Heterodoxa & Prostatus are registered cultivar names. Cultivar names consist of the name of the denomination class (Latin genus name) plus a cultivar epithet (in a modern language) in single quotation marks. The first letter of each word in a cultivar or cultivar-group epithet is capitalized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev Posted June 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 For an unregistered bogus name, you can call it anything, but there are rules about official registered names. Latin names are OK for Genus and species names, but I do not believe Dentata, Dentate, Heterodoxa & Prostatus are registered cultivar names. Hi Bob, I thought Dentate was one of the few VFT's people could agree upon as being an official registered cultivar ? Edit: Dentate is in the list of registed dioneae cultivars on the ICPS site http://www.carnivorousplants.org/cultivars/diocult.html The list doesnt seem to have changed in at least 5 years. Trev. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aidan Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 What about Dentata, Dentate, Heterodoxa & Prostratus... Dionaea 'Dentate Traps' is the only registered name. This is what it says under 'Dentate': HC: the established name for the same cultivar is [Dionaea ' Dentate Traps ' {B.Meyers-Rice}] Latin or pseudo-Latin names are not acceptable. This is taken from the Cultivar Registration form: Cultivar names consist of the name of the denomination class (Latin genus name) plus a cultivar epithet (in a modern language) in single quotation marks. The first letter of each word in a cultivar or cultivar-group epithet is capitalized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2LAP Posted June 3, 2005 Report Share Posted June 3, 2005 Dionaea 'Dentate Traps' is the only registered name. Time to edit the growlist... again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev Posted June 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2005 2Lap, Dentate Traps is actually a different form to Dentate, I grow both and Dentate Traps has fairly typical looking teeth in the spring growth and they get more dentate looking as the season goes on but are always a little longer in the tooth than Dentate. As I understand it, from what I have read, one was a TC mutation and the other was wild collected. Trev. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aidan Posted June 3, 2005 Report Share Posted June 3, 2005 HC: the established name for the same cultivar is [Dionaea ' Dentate Traps ' {B.Meyers-Rice}] Trev - You had better tell the ICPS that they are wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev Posted June 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2005 Hi Aiden, I am intending to photograph and write a short description of my different Dentate forms some time soon when they are in full growth. I'll post it up then. Trev. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobZ Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 There are a number of dentate type VFTs that are registered as cultivars, such as 'Jaws' and 'Sawtooth'. The jb is to describe how a new cultivar differs from one already registered. For example, the ICPS database has this about 'Sawtooth' "This [Dionaea muscipula {Soland. ex Ellis}] is of uncertain origin, but has been distributed without an established name. As such, the commonly used name [Dionaea ' Sawtooth ' {B.Meyers-Rice}] is being registered. [Dionaea ' Sawtooth ' {B.Meyers-Rice}] is a remarkable plant in the Dionaea Dentate Traps Group {B.Meyers-Rice}. Its marginal trap spines are reduced to small triangular teeth, as in [Dionaea ' Dentate Traps ' {B.Meyers-Rice}]. Unlike that latter cultivar, however, the teeth of [Dionaea ' Sawtooth ' {B.Meyers-Rice}] are frequently minutely divided into two or more tiny teethlets, so the trap has an almost fringed appearance. Late in the season, the interior of the traps may be deeply red, although this is not visible in young traps." and 'Jaws' "I crossed [Dionaea ' Dentate Traps ' {B.Meyers-Rice}], (...) with its marginal tentacles mutated into short teeth, with a plant we grow which is noteworthy for its consistently extra large, moderately red- colored traps. This plant was selected from the seedlings. The margins of the trap are dentate like the pollen parent. Like the seed parent, the traps are consistently large, with good coloration. The plant is vigorous and even though the traps do not have normal cilia, they do trap insects." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev Posted June 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 Back on topic : 'Microdentata' 'Microdent' from the tunnel today - Trev. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chloroplastik Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 Nice shot Trev! Sphagnum seams to be a really good substract for Dionaea. Your Microdents' trap looks very healthy. Bye ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev Posted June 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Hi chloro, mold and fungus are rife in this wet damp climate and Sphagnum has a natural anti-fungal quality that seems to protect the plants. Trev. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lophophora Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 Yeah really nice, the traps doesen't look like the traps from guillaume's one, an explication? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guillaume Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 Hi Lopho, I can told you mine is the same than trev's one, I will post some picture soon. My microdent made many traps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lophophora Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 I will waiting the pics, i hope soon. One thing is sure, your plants looks so nice :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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