Sean Spence Posted May 14, 2005 Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 You could train it up or down or whichever way you like but a 2 metre case would still not be large enough and completely impractical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanW Posted May 14, 2005 Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 A few weeks ago I visited Bonn botanical gardens with a group of 30 German CP'ers. We saw a Triphophyllum peltatum which was about 20 cm high. I think those plants are 1) really slow growers in first stage then 2) go up vining really really fast and 3) are as rare as few plants on earth. There are only two (at least I know only two) botanical gardens who grow this exotic and some growers really think they can grow it in their terrarium/greenhouse? A bit of thinking would be smart before making such plans! Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Spence Posted May 14, 2005 Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 Agreed Jan. Mere pipedreams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 14, 2005 Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 You could train it up or down or whichever way you like but a 2 metre case would still not be large enough and completely impractical. I wasnt talking about 2 metres I was talking about training it like that untill there was simply not enoughr oom left in the greenhouse for it to grow anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob-Rah Posted May 14, 2005 Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 As we still know not a lot about this plant, the issue seems irrelevant. It might be able to be trained in culture hoya-like, or it might not. The rarity means that botanical gardens don't have much material to play with, and they opt for the safest option. For us just to assert in the positive or negative is not terribly justified. Does anyone know anything about the extent of a mature root-system, for example? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Spence Posted May 14, 2005 Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 Dino, up until now we had been discussing the prospect of one particular person growing Triphyophyllum in a 2 metre x 3 metre enclosure. I simply assumed that you would follow the line of discussion and relate your comments to those already made- particularly Aidans statement that you quoted which clearly states "a 2m high case". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Spence Posted May 14, 2005 Report Share Posted May 14, 2005 For us just to assert in the positive or negative is not terribly justified. Simply opinions put forward for the purpose of discussion. I don't think there is anything wrong with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepenthesleep Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 I'm a little curious on the subject too. Unfortunately, enthusiasts and botanical institutions are in a zugzwag. The areas where T. peltatum grows are apparently in high turmoil and there is a good chance of getting hurt. I think botanical institutions should try to keep their plants alive as best they can. Meanwhile, we should try to collect as much information on the plant as possible, as well as maybe collecting seeds. But rather than let a single enthusiast, we should donate all materials including information of habit and habitat to as many botanical institutions, because A)They have the space B) They have the knowledge and facility to grow the plant. I have a few questions as my knowledge of the rare plant is limited to the books I've read. 1. How did the botanical institutions that have T. peltatum obtain them (By "digging up the plants" or by seed/cutting/etc.) 2. Newb question, Where does it grow specifically? Stupid me, just reread, Sierra Leone. But what area of SL does it grow in. I see that the UN has signed an Environmental Modification that includes Endangered species but it has not been ratified. 3. Are there any plants that were under a similar situation but are now common thanks to nuts like MACPs? Concerning climate, SL is very wet, hot and humid. There is a summer dry season and during the wet season, up to 495 cm can fall. Perhaps people in similar environments such as Borneo could have a better shot and growing the plant successfully. I remember a Nepenthes distributor some showed pictures of on the forum a while back. They were apparently very close to N. bicalcarata's habitat so the plant grew very well. I don't know whether a greenhouse can grow a N. bicalcarata as big as they can but I'm almost certain the plants enjoy growing outside in a similar environment to their natural habitat as opposed to a gh. Perhaps Borneo could provide the hot humid conditions probably required by T. peltatum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRFxtreme Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 Just getting this topic back out there. Anyone have any new info? I emailed Christian a few days ago but he hasn't replied so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wallydraigle Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 snip3. Are there any plants that were under a similar situation but are now common thanks to nuts like MACPs? *snip* That's the thing, there are indeed other plants like this. Some that spring instantly to mind are the Chilean blue crocus and several tulip species which are extinct in the wild. And the ginkgo tree. Oh yes, they've been in cultivation so long that they're practically on every street corner, but apparently extinct in the wild. A while back botanists thought they found a site where wild ginkgo trees were growing, but it's been shown that they're all so closely related that they almost certainly came from cultivated stock planted centuries ago. Which is kind of ironic. Probably the first reintroduction attempt in history. Why people are ever in favor of letting conservatories have the monopoly on plants like this whose survival is so precarious is completely beyond me. Get as much genetic material spread out into as many hands as possible while there's still some kind of diversity to conserve. Once all the wild populations are burned, hacked, and bombed into oblivion, those five specimens growing in botanical gardens aren't going to mean much. Saying let institutions handle it is in practice the same as saying just let them die out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRFxtreme Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Well, its about that time again. Any new developments on Triphyophyllum peltatum in cultivation? Any seed sources? If the mods would prefer I create a new topic for this (instead of resurrecting this one every year or two), let me know and I'll set it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieter Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 The last time I saw the plant in Bonn (end of march) makes me doubt the situation will change in the next few years. I will visit the botanical garden on july, 22nd and I can take a look there. Cheers Dieter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRFxtreme Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Any info is welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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