Miguel Angel Medina Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 Do you think she is a pure giant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rob-Rah Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 Nice! Mine's looking a bit yellowish at the moment and a bit less lush than it might... probably the heat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Angel Medina Posted July 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 (edited) Good after a little research and comment with several collectors and see the photos we all come to the conclusion that it is a hybrid, not a species,. One of the most relevant patterns that betray this penguin sold as (Gigantea), is its pronuncioado funnel rather long with respect to true flower of P.Gigantea, as well as its pattern of color of the flower We have all opllined individually that such a plant is truly P xTina, After contacting the seller privately to ask for an explanation and dialogue. He continues to insist that he does not sell Tina ,,,, only Gigantea Here I show the differences between both species Mr. Michal Parvanov (MISO) nickname in this forum I think you should reconsider and truly find out if your provider is really cheating you by supplying a pinguicula that is not, because you sell us a plant that does not correspond to your description, and that will be call bad praxis And your responsibility as a seller is to know what you are selling. and as an amateur to know what he has as a plant. With this I only hope to open a debate and inform you that if you are a producer you should know what you sell. first real photo Gigantea, the second photo of his famous gigantea  Edited July 11, 2018 by Miguel Angel Medina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob-Rah Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 Isn't P. gigantea the only ping with the glands on the leaves; undersides too? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werds Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 Pinguicula gigantea is the only species with glands on the two sides of the leaf, check it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werds Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 But yes, that flower ressembles P x Tina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Angel Medina Posted July 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 20 minutes ago, werds said: Pinguicula gigantea es la única especie con glándulas en los dos lados de la hoja, compruébalo. No Werd, it's something that happened to me with anger. But it does not have glands on the back of the leaf ..... it's another point in my favor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argo88 Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 I’ve seen sell a clone like Your (with same flower and same leaf shape) as P. gigantea, but I’m sure it is not a pure one... like You have said, the flower is very different and I’ve never seen in my p. Gigantea (some boarn from seeds) a leaf edge so definited and tourned up as in the first photo... as Werds correctly says P. Gigantea has glands in the two sides of the leaves... only two things that I’ve red, years ago, in two articles... a grower that has sown P. Gigantea seeds said that some plantlets didn’t have glands  in the down side of the leaves (but in my experience in sowing this specie I’ve had 20 plantlets, all with glands in both sides). I’ve red that also a wild clone of p. Moranensis have glands in both sides of the leaves.. I’ve never seen it, I only repeat that I’ve red.  Anyway, You have a nice clone of Pinguicula... it seems me very interesting;-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argo88 Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 (edited) P.s.: If this is not a P. Gigantea, this winter it will make a rosette with not carnivorous leaves... p. Gigantea in winter reduce its size (about 1/2 than summer size) but the leaves stay carnivorous, with a lot of muchilage Edited July 12, 2018 by Argo88 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carambola Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 It looks exactly like my Pinguicula x Tina, so there must have been a mixup at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Angel Medina Posted July 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 3 hours ago, carambola said: Se ve exactamente como mi Pinguicula x Tina, por lo que debe haber habido una confusión en algún momento. If on top of that I am wrong it is me and the others Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argo88 Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 Miso is a very serious seller... I’ve bought several time from him, and I’m very satisfacted... I’ve seen sell this plant as p. Gigantea in Italy and in U.S.A. too...if it is as You and me say, that this plant is not a pure p. Gigantea, I’m sure that he have bought it as P. Gigantea and is sure that it is that plant... this winter You’ll be sure if it is a real p. Gigantea or not... if we are in true, we confirm that to Miso... if it is a pure p. Gigantea, I’ll apologize with Miso in this post and I’ll say to everybody that I’m wrong... so, please tell me if this winter the plant will have a winter rosette carnivorous or not;-) I must to repeat that Miso is a very serious seller and in my experience he has always sold good quality and very healty plants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carambola Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 Miguel, could you take a close-up picture of the underside of one of the young, new leaves? I'm sure there was no ill intent involved, just a little confusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Angel Medina Posted July 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 Top first photo here you can see the glands and their brightness. To the touch is sticky Bottom second photo smaller color and without glands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argo88 Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 If is useful for You, here my p. Giganteas, the two on the left seed grown (2 years old, mother plant purple flower, they haven’t never bloomed yet) and the third is a p. Gigantea alba (the right one, the plant of third photo)... see the colour (the plants never keep direct sunlight)... look at the edge of the leaves, different and less definited of Miguel plant;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argo88 Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 Do You see the under side glands usual in p. Gigantea? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Angel Medina Posted July 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Argo88 said: Do You see the under side glands usual in p. Gigantea? Â If partner Argo88Â Â is quite clear my P, Gigantea Alba poese the glands on both sides ..... own the genre Gigantea ..... The fact is that what is discussed is that MISO should know as we all know. Today, it does not respond or defend itself .... Edited July 13, 2018 by Miguel Angel Medina 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Angel Medina Posted July 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 (edited) Here I show you his sister, his owner gave me this photo since two were acquired, it is clear that this man has cheated us and as such I will do everything in my power to publicize their bad practices, Edited July 19, 2018 by Miguel Angel Medina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argo88 Posted April 15, 2019 Report Share Posted April 15, 2019 On 7/19/2018 at 3:12 PM, Miguel Angel Medina said: Here I show you his sister, his owner gave me this photo since two were acquired, it is clear that this man has cheated us and as such I will do everything in my power to publicize their bad practices, Hi!! How is Your Pinguicula winter rosette? Without carnivorous leaves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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