Plantsman89 Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 (edited) I ordered some Sarracenia from a reputable source (who will remain nameless for the time being). All of them were recent divions but one of them has no roots. From all the literature I've read and even going back to when I was studying at college divisions must have roots. What are the chances of it putting out roots and surviving? Edited March 9, 2018 by Plantsman89 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuberousdrosera Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 They can and do root easily I prefer to pot them up with moss around the rhizome ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plantsman89 Posted March 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 Thank you I'll do that first thing tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuberousdrosera Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 It's no an ideal situation but I pull of plenty of crowns by mistake, quite often I just poke them in to the soil but moss just a better choice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsty Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 I would let the seller know about it, and say that you are looking after it, but may need to get back to them about the final result. There's no hard and fast rule that divisions must have roots, it's all down to any number of different factors....... Where would you like me to start...?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plantsman89 Posted March 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 I have emailed them and we'll see what they come back with. I must say though I was surprised and a bit shocked that they'd send out a plant like that. I wouldn't even expect that sort of thing from someone on eBay let alone a specialist. Surely you'd want to send them out with the best chance they can have, it's not the biggest of divisions either. Whoops, that turned into a bit of a rant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsty Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 But yes, Plantsman, I agree with you, it is not exactly "best practice" to send out divisions without roots. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewoud Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 Indeed, there is a high chance that they will root in some time (although when I do it, I immediately plant it.., so there is no risk it will dry out). But I don't like it either that I receive a rootless division when I order something, exept when it's communicated in advance.. Otherwhise I expect a division with roots 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexis Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 No loose roots in the packaging? Presumably it has a grow point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plantsman89 Posted March 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 40 minutes ago, Alexis said: No loose roots in the packaging? Presumably it has a grow point? No sign of anything. It does have a growth point and a couple of phyllodia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deansgreenarmy Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 Hi, I don't know what you ordered / agreed or the price etc so feel I have no right to comment on that and personally if small divisions are available I would choose them priced accordingly of course but we can all see this is a small piece of rhizome so understand the question! It is a piece of rhizome though and only wish to say they are very impressive in general no matter the type, I am sure it will fire but would maybe remove some more material and have a shady spot and control moisture for a bit but would do that for any type of cutting which needs a root or two, which are also impressive things and quite dynamic. Anyway hope to see a photo of a much more impressive plant soon :) Dean 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsty Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 Hey Plantsman, How much did you pay for it, and was it a fair price? That is not a division, it is a cutting. There should be a growing point or points somewhere at the tip. But whatever, it is a cutting not a division. I had this image of a rhizome that had rooted and then lost roots for some reason. Clearly that is not the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plantsman89 Posted March 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 I paid £20 for it, had it been like the others on the same order I wouldn't mind. The thing that annoys me the most is that this seller has impressed me with previous orders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baeutytube Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 Wow nice price for a cutting. What type of sarracenia is it? Must be a rare one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordovic Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 I agree with Karsty, that's a cutting. Very little rhizome, no roots, clearly freshly cut. I would be pretty cross if I paid £20 for a division and that's what arrived. I'm curious as to the seller but also why send one like this if all the others in same order were good quality. That is not £20 worth of plant regardless how rare. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plantsman89 Posted March 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 20 minutes ago, Ordovic said: I agree with Karsty, that's a cutting. Very little rhizome, no roots, clearly freshly cut. I would be pretty cross if I paid £20 for a division and that's what arrived. I'm curious as to the seller but also why send one like this if all the others in same order were good quality. That is not £20 worth of plant regardless how rare. Agreed, had it been like the other four in the order it would have been a half decent price for one of the whitest S. leucophylla var alba if seen so far. Cross is a bit of an understatement, I'm going to email the seller again if I don't hear anything tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ada Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 do i see 2 tiny roots just forming? i wouldn't be happy with that but i'm not surprised either. It gives me an idea how much i can charge for a leuco var alba #1 from steffan Lenssen. It will grow,but the first two seasons the pitchers will be like grass i reckon ada 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plantsman89 Posted March 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 It does look like it ada, hopefully it won't be too weedy for too long. I'll try and remain optimistic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deltatango301 Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 It certainly looks healthy I broke a rhizome in half that had no grow points but plenty of roots so I notched some cuts in the top and hope for some growth later in the year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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