Oddworld1000 Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 (edited) Hi all. Have any UK growers used or had problems using Westland peat moss? I’m looking to buy a 100 litre bag but I’ve heard that Westland sometimes bulk their peat moss with normal compost so don’t use for CP’s. What brand of peat moss is everybody using? Thanks Edited February 11, 2018 by Oddworld1000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenofeden Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 Westlands is the one to avoid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blocky71 Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 I've had bad results with westlands. Sarras seemed ok but a lot of my vft's and ceph's were struggling / regressing. I repotted all of the ceph's and vft's into shamrock Irish moss peat at the end of last season and they were already perking up. Hoping they'll do much better this season. I'll make a start on the sarras in the coming weeks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blocky71 Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) If you google "shamrock Irish moss peat suppliers" you should get a result from ' ernestdoepower.com' . They have a branch locater showing 2or 3 shops around your area. They do 120litres of shamrock for £7-50 but it's not back in stock until spring , I had to order mine in anyhow so give them a bell mate . cheers chris Edited February 5, 2018 by Blocky71 Error 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexis Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) Clover and Arthur Bowers are ok too Edited February 5, 2018 by Alexis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddworld1000 Posted February 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) Great, thank you all for your replies. I’m glad I asked. Thank you too Chris. There’s an ernnestdoepower store 11 miles from me. I’ll give them a call. Very helpful feedback from all of you. I’m out of date as my last decent CP collection was 20 years ago in South Africa. Currently have 1 ceph, 1 VFT and 1 S. leucophylla. All need repotting. Also just received a pack of 250 mixed Drosera seeds which need to be sown, no idea what’s going to pop up. I had a bog garden 7 years ago which was filled with Westland peat, only the Sarra survived, the Drosera and VFT’s just faded away over a couple years. Thanks again everyone. Edited February 11, 2018 by Oddworld1000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blocky71 Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 That was happening to a lot of my plants too, at the end of the growing season they were smaller than they were at the start! . A few of my vft's now look like seedlings but are at least 3 or 4 years old... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsty Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 Hang on Oddworld, you surely mean Westland?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddworld1000 Posted February 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 Hi Karsty, yes you are correct it should be Westland. Not sure what I was thinking, maybe predictive text. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plantsman89 Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 On 05/02/2018 at 1:46 PM, Blocky71 said: If you google "shamrock Irish moss peat suppliers" you should get a result from ' ernestdoepower.com' . They have a branch locater showing 2or 3 shops around your area. They do 120litres of shamrock for £7-50 but it's not back in stock until spring , I had to order mine in anyhow so give them a bell mate . cheers chris Handy tip that's where I bought mine from. Good to know it's coming back into stock too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billynomates666 Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 My few local suppliers seem to have changed over to Westland in the last twelve months, presumably there is a financial reason for doing so. Knowing the previous experiences of other growers and indeed myself I asked the question of Westland and got the following reply. Hi Steve, Please be assured that we do not bag old unused peat in our bags. All of our growing medias will have fertiliser added as part of its formulation, the only peat product we produce that does not contain any fertilser is our Irish Moss Peat which is just moss peat (5.5 pH) and nothing else. We hope this helps Kind regards Jamie Jones Technical Advisory So so in theory all is well. Cheers steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordovic Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 I'm confused by the growing monopoly Westland has in garden centres across the country, since I find all of their products to be of dubious quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexis Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 Their peat may well be perfectly fine today, but considering all my fly traps nearly died in it about 7 years ago, I won’t buy it ever again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsty Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 I've never even seen their moss peat for sale here just north of London. I may just not yet have encountered a clash, but I often use their products and on the face of it have found them to be very good. With just one exception, in a way... This new thing they make - "Gro-Sure Smart Cover" Takes an age and a half to "fluff up" as they recommend, and even if you do, it covers way less than they say. I left this review on Crocus.. "I have been a professional gardener since 1996 and was very interested to try this product, which I did for the first time today. The product itself seems very good, and it seems believable that it will knit together after being wetted. However, the claims that one bag will cover 5 square metres is simply not true. It is necessary to fiddle about with the product for quite some time to "fluff it up" as it says in the instructions. And then, 100 litres safely covers 1.5 square metres, maybe 2 square metres if you are incredibly meticulous." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedog0628 Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 I will not be using any Westland products ever again. A few years back I got some of their multi-purpose compost to re-pot some of my non-CP plants and all of the plants went downhill within a couple of weeks. Used wilko's own brand, miracle grow, arthur j. bowers in the past without problems, but westland almost killed my plants. The plants I did not re-pot were doing fine in the same conditions, only difference was the compost. So I'm staying well away from Westlands products. Unfortunately, they appear to be the only brand my local Tesco sells so no more of the convenience of picking it up with my weekly shop... The remaining bag I have sitting in the shed will be emptied onto my flower border and mixed with the existing soil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsty Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 Ok, I've just literally potted a bunch of Humata (Davallia) cuttings into Westland Multi-Purpose Compost, the one with a wetting agent. So, let's call it an experiment On 2/8/2018 at 7:15 PM, Oddworld1000 said: Hi Karsty, yes you are correct it should be Westland. Not sure what I was thinking, maybe predictive text. Thanks Oddworld, You can edit the title of this thread if you like Karsty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddworld1000 Posted February 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 On 10/02/2018 at 3:22 PM, Karsty said: Ok, I've just literally potted a bunch of Humata (Davallia) cuttings into Westland Multi-Purpose Compost, the one with a wetting agent. So, let's call it an experiment Oddworld, You can edit the title of this thread if you like Karsty Ah, so I can if I edit the first post. Just done so. Thanks again Karsty, what would I do without you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsty Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 No worries Oddworld. I am also in an Odd World Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddworld1000 Posted February 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 I’ve been doing more research on Westland peat moss and came across an old CPUK post from 2009. The 18th post by JimsPlants was very interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buster Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 (edited) I have just e-mailed the manager of the Dartford branch of ernestdoepower requesting expected stock date, I will let you know if I get a reply. UPDATE Wow, they replied within 20 mins Good afternoon,We have stock due In Thursday of this week.How many bags are you after?If you let me know I can put aside and also let you know when ready for collection.Best Regards Matt Hobbs Parts Manager & Case IH Parts Sales Manager (SoT) ERNEST DOE POWER Sutton At Hone So it appears it should be in stock on the 29/03/18 but probably better to collect after the Easter Holidays Edited March 27, 2018 by Buster Updated info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blocky71 Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 That's the branch I got my shamrock from mate, I'll be getting another bag in due course.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plantsman89 Posted March 27, 2018 Report Share Posted March 27, 2018 I went to my local Doe Power on Friday to pick up some parts and they had them in stock, so I came back with one. I might go and get another this week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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