manders Posted September 16, 2017 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 (edited) My pink flowered lettuces are doing ok, (btw anyone out there with a different clone of neo-volcanica?) Edited September 16, 2017 by manders 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argo88 Posted September 16, 2017 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 Beautiful plants!!! I think You must pollinate them and sowing their seeds to have different clones;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manders Posted September 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 I dont think theyre self fertile, you need a different clone to get seeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ham Posted September 16, 2017 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 Very nice pinguiculas, what medium are they grown on? I also noticed the very very short tray for the plants XD. Thanks for posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argo88 Posted September 16, 2017 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 24 minutes ago, manders said: I dont think theyre self fertile, you need a different clone to get seeds. Sorry, I didn't know it... it's that I love seedgrown plants and surprises from them;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manders Posted September 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 42 minutes ago, ham said: Very nice pinguiculas, what medium are they grown on? I also noticed the very very short tray for the plants XD. Thanks for posting. Theyre in a mixture of perlite and growstones (recycled glass), it was just what i had hanging around, they will grow in anything from pure peat to pure perlite and everything in-between. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manders Posted September 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 26 minutes ago, Argo88 said: Sorry, I didn't know it... it's that I love seedgrown plants and surprises from them;-) I would like to grow some from seed as well, but i need a different clone to do it, i dont want to make a hybrid with one of my other pings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince81 Posted September 16, 2017 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 Nice tray ! Have you ever tried to pollinate them ? I know they wouldn't pollinate themselves, however, I can't recall Pinguicula being allogamous, but I don't have anything to support that claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manders Posted September 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Vince81 said: Nice tray ! Have you ever tried to pollinate them ? I know they wouldn't pollinate themselves, however, I can't recall Pinguicula being allogamous, but I don't have anything to support that claim. I had these for 35 years and never had seeds off them, although ive only tried pollinating a couple of times. I think its generally accepted that most mexicans cant be self pollinated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ham Posted September 16, 2017 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 wow, 35 years?! Thats crazy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manders Posted September 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2017 Its one of the first plants i bought of Adrian Slack in the 1970s, and virtually the only one my parents didnt kill while i was uni/working/living abroad, got it back about a dozen years ago... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince81 Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 On 16/09/2017 at 8:00 PM, manders said: I had these for 35 years and never had seeds off them, although ive only tried pollinating a couple of times. I think its generally accepted that most mexicans cant be self pollinated. I've tried to self-pollinate a P. hemiepiphytica in late September to investigate a bit this matter. The 8th of October, it looked like it worked as the fruit began to form and swell. The flower stalk also straightened: I checked up on it today, and here is the result: I'll sow the seeds and see whether they are fertile. A friend of mine told me that your plant might be a sterile hybrid. Alternatively there is this hypothesis that pollen needs to ripe in a dry environment, and that air humidity in a greenhouse or a terrarium could prevent this maturation process. In my case though, it didn't seem to have been a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B52 Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Vince81 said: I've tried to self-pollinate a P. hemiepiphytica in late September to investigate a bit this matter. The 8th of October, it looked like it worked as the fruit began to form and swell. The flower stalk also straightened: I checked up on it today, and here is the result: I'll sow the seeds and see whether they are fertile. A friend of mine told me that your plant might be a sterile hybrid. Alternatively there is this hypothesis that pollen needs to ripe in a dry environment, and that air humidity in a greenhouse or a terrarium could prevent this maturation process. In my case though, it didn't seem to have been a problem. Nice, I hope there fertile for you. I have tryed pollenating Pinguicula moranensis to it's self 4 days ago just to see if it can produce fertile seeds, just got to wait and see now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manders Posted November 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 (edited) It will be interesting to see. Temperature apparently can play a big part, plants kept below 30C are apparently more fertile for example. I doubt my ‘caudata’ is a hybrid, its a clone thats been around for a very long time originating from Adrian Slacks nursery in the 1970’s. Long before there was many other species in cultivation. What seems to happen is very old clones in cultivation tend become sterile. Possibly due to repeated vegetative propagation. Edited November 19, 2017 by manders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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