manders Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 Mine doesn't have sent, i'm surprised the roots rotted, normally adiantum roots are quite capable of growing out of the pot and into the water in a tray, mine are stood in water all year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manders Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 (edited) Mine doesn't have scent, i'm surprised the roots rotted, normally adiantum roots are quite capable of growing out of the pot and into the water in a tray, mine are stood in water all year. Edited October 14, 2017 by manders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsty Posted October 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 Mine stopped smelling like lilies a while ago. Now it smells just fresh and "green" (~8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsty Posted December 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 It's giving off a lily scent again, but still not growing. I have no idea how to make it happier? Do you think it is a bit quirky and wants limey conditions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manders Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 I read it does like lime (like most adiantums?) not tried it though. Mine doesnt grow over winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsty Posted December 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 Hi Manders, I have not read that anywhere, after all it comes from peru which, as far as I know, is not a place of limey rocks. Have you got a link to the info? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manders Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 I don't have a link, try google, Peru has limestone in its geology. The only way to know if its a benefit is to try it. My memory is one guy wrote he had small peruvianums growing on the mortar in his greenhouse... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsty Posted December 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 Thanks Manders. I can find that limestone is present in Peru by googling "limestone peru", but very, very little info about where it is actually present. Even geological maps don't tell you, they just state the age of the rock and not much more. I've still got some tufa, so tomorrow I'll try moving it onto it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manders Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 I'm not sure i'd go straight to planting it on Tufa, a little bit of calcium in the soil is one thing, planting onto tufa is something else. They like to be quite wet in my experience as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manders Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 One or two habitat photos, not sure what kind of rock that is... http://www.fernsoftheworld.com/2014/05/24/adiantum-peruvianum/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsty Posted December 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 Wow! That's amazing! It certainly looks like limestone! There is so little info on the web about this species. Thank you for finding that (~8. Mine is so ill that it seems to scream that it needs something totally different, so I'll risk a total change to tufa. I've presently got many Adiantums germinating and growing on my tufa mounds where I'm growing Nepenthes campanulata and northiana! (I'll post some pics) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsty Posted December 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 Adiantum growing on tufa with leafmould infill, together with Nepenthes northiana... https://photos.app.goo.gl/2jxRFm1bHxglsv1E3 Adiantum growing on tufa with leafmould infill, together with Nepenthes campanulata... https://photos.app.goo.gl/7C6h7ZZ3NnI3kVPA2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Samuel Wright Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 I I grow Ferns here in Uganda and am always interested in them!Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsty Posted December 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 (edited) Hi John, Welcome to the forum Ferns are awesome! I've got a 7 foot Dicksonia antarctica in my flat, amongst others. Here's the A. peruvianum freshly repotted into leafmould and tufa... https://photos.app.goo.gl/wYTNjf9tMDn6zRh82 Edited December 7, 2017 by Karsty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manders Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 (edited) Karsty, https://etd.ohiolink.edu/!etd.send_file?accession=miami1350236402&disposition=inline Have a look at this link, it describes all the species in the Peruvianum complex, limestone is mentioned frequently as a habitat. Edited December 7, 2017 by manders 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsty Posted December 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 That's amazing! Thank you Manders It actually states that A. peruvianum is found on limestone 5 times! Why don't we know about these things??? How did you find that article? How does this impact on what we are told about South American cacti, that they prefer acid to neutral conditions? (I found one article saying that Trichocereus needs limestone in its soil, although I'm not sure of the diligence of the author.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manders Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 (edited) I think it’s time i gave mine some lime... conditions vary very rapidly depending on the underlying rock, one mountain can be very different to one next to it in, e.g. sandstone and limestone will give totally different conditions, my wife prefers we go up sandstone mountains - no leaches... Edited December 8, 2017 by manders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Baba Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 Hi Karsty According to my ‘bible’ of ferns (Ferns by Jones) most adiantums are calcicoles and it does sound like your original compost was acidic. I just use a normal JI type compost for adiantum and they do fine (unless I forget to water them [emoji3]) no need to grow them on chunks of limestone. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsty Posted December 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 It makes you wonder,.... if you buy an Adiantum, it always seems to be in acidic compost (although I haven't tested them). As for the chunks of limestone, it is a work of art for me. Any opportunity or excuse to grow things on rocks or wood or bark or..... anything aesthetic, and I grab it. Just finished planting 2 sets of 3 Platycerium bifurcatums in hanging half-coconut shells. I've always imagined Adiantums naturally growing on humus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manders Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 Even the british ones are usually on limestone or at least mortar in brick walls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niki Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 This thread is great! I’m searching for either A. Peruvianum and/or A. Macrophyllum, now if I ever find them I know how to keep them alive! Where did you find yours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsty Posted March 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 9 hours ago, Niki said: This thread is great! I’m searching for either A. Peruvianum and/or A. Macrophyllum, now if I ever find them I know how to keep them alive! Where did you find yours? Hi Niki and Welcome Isn't it great when you find out just the right information?! I got my peruvianum from Perfect Plants, but they're not selling them now. I also looked for trapeziforme, but couldn't find it. I've now got 2 peruvianums which are seeming to come back to life. They are both now planted in oak leafmould and tufa limestone. Maybe once they've grown a bit I could work something out to send you a division? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niki Posted March 24, 2018 Report Share Posted March 24, 2018 Hi Karsty! They are impossible to find! Would love a division, I may have some things on my side of interest, we could do a trade! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsty Posted March 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, Niki said: Hi Karsty! They are impossible to find! Would love a division, I may have some things on my side of interest, we could do a trade! I'll give you fair warning though, they have suffered a lot and it could take quite a while before I dare divide them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deansgreenarmy Posted March 24, 2018 Report Share Posted March 24, 2018 Hi, On 22/03/2018 at 11:41 AM, Niki said: I’m searching.... 2 hours ago, Niki said: They are impossible to find... http://www.plantsforshade.co.uk/acatalog/Ferns.html These may be able to keep you busy for a while, lots of other alternatives if not just like some of them that's all. Happy growing :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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