HannahMariia Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 Hi I've had this ceph for 6 months and it's been kept on a southwest facing windowsill. Over the past couple of days 1 pitcher has turned yellow. I water using a saucer method and refill saucer after its dried out for a couple of days (the saucer not the plant). Am I doing something wrong or is it normal? It's a fairly new pitcher too. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnivine Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 I dont let my Cephs stand in water. I was advised to water from above and then tip away any water that collects in the tray / saucer. To date, all has gone well and not had any problems so my guess is it's got something to do with standing in the water. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HannahMariia Posted May 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 I'll start watering from above and see if that makes any changes, thanks. all the other pitchers seem alright so far and it's grown loads since I bought it but I know they can die back all of a sudden :) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 Not sure why that particular pitcher has decided to die back. Keep an eye on it but as the abundance of new leaf growth is healthy, I wouldn't worry too much. Incidentally, I grow mine always standing in water, sometimes almost up to the pot brim with the smaller pots! Dry conditions around the roots are far more detrimental than flooding. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HannahMariia Posted May 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 I don't the proper term for it but the stem that connects the pitcher to the plant is black/brown it is quite deep in the plant so I don't know if it's got suffocated. If that can happen? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stu Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 I suppose it is possible if overlying growth has squeezed the petiole, but sometimes the odd pitchers just die off as new growth replaces them. They can also die off rapidly if polluted with too much fertiliser or food that the pitcher cannot cope with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HannahMariia Posted May 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 I've not fertilised it at all and I don't think it's caught loads of food, maybe the odd spider! Thanks hopefully it's nothing to worry about :) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicat Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 2 hours ago, Stu said: Not sure why that particular pitcher has decided to die back. Keep an eye on it but as the abundance of new leaf growth is healthy, I wouldn't worry too much. Incidentally, I grow mine always standing in water, sometimes almost up to the pot brim with the smaller pots! Dry conditions around the roots are far more detrimental than flooding. I think the used watering method that works depends on other circumstances as well, such as the mix you use, and the temperature. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HannahMariia Posted May 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 Found out the problem. The pot must've been getting to hot and the roots have gotten to warm, I've put it on a southeast window now (cooler). Will it recover from this? some of the traps have closed their lids. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicat Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 I found an article that says cephalotus can handle warmer temperatures as long as they receive a drop in nighttime temperatures. I hope people with more experience with Cephalotus can comment on this?https://www.growcarnivorousplants.com/Articles.asp?ID=267 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HannahMariia Posted May 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 It was really hot, because the pot is black I think it absorbed too much of the heat. I have heard they like it warm but roots need to be kept cooler so I wrapped the pot in bubble wrap to try and reflect the heat haha! Thanks I'll have a read of the article! :) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 That's a good article Tropicat - the Sarracenia Northwest guys are a great, knowledgeable bunch. Hannah; it may well be getting too hot for too long - the drop in night temperature is important. Black pots per se are not an issue (I use black pots for my entire collection - even Darlingtonia in full sun) but may not be helping if already in a stuffy, hot environment. It'll probably be happier now on the new windowsill. The lids closing are a sign of low humidity. You could try the occasional hand misting and/or check the traps have fluid inside. If they are dry, you can safely add a tiny amount of rain water into them which may improve things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HannahMariia Posted May 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 I've just checked and it does look like pitchers are dry. I'll try adding some rain water to them. Thankyou everyone! :) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicat Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 I always see that ppl say the closing lids are a sign of low humidity. I have tried experimenting with my cephs (i like experimenting). I put a ceph outside in the full sunshine and the pot was standing in water completely to the edge. The lids closed. After a while i moved it to the shade and took it out of the water and let it dry completely. The lids opened. It seems contradictory. I can imagine the same i see with orchids: if they are watered too much the roots rot and they show signs of dehydration. Idk if this is the same with cephs? I put the ceph in both conditions for about 2 weeks. The ceph is still growing well. Does anyone know more about this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimitar Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 4 hours ago, Tropicat said: if they are watered too much the roots rot and they show signs of dehydration. Idk if this is the same with cephs? No, is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunc Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 Looks like a great healthy plant so I wouldn't worry about the odd trap or two going 'off'. Too many plants so can't be fussy on any of mine - they're in the trays like anything else in the greenhouse that hit the mid 30s today. They're in very free draining compost mix but the 'stems' go down very deep in the pots so are probably in water most of the time. Seem fine with this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicat Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 I'm so confused about cephs and watering now... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HannahMariia Posted May 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 Ceph seems okayish today, some pitchers/leaves on original plant are still soft/limp, on the new division everything has firmed up so fingers crossed should be okay. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Salter Posted May 26, 2017 Report Share Posted May 26, 2017 I would lean towards heat stress, I have lost a load recently (including clone 1 Stuart and they had the biggest pitchers) since the heat went up there has been problems here. from what I have learned when there are signs of decline above there is already trouble below. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HannahMariia Posted May 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2017 More pitchers are dying off the new growth is coming okay still. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Salter Posted May 28, 2017 Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 remove the dead material and keep the plant fresh and cool it may continue to be ok. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HannahMariia Posted May 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2017 it looks really unhappy new division looks like it's died, can still see a bit of green coming from original plant. I'm hoping it pulls through Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicat Posted May 29, 2017 Report Share Posted May 29, 2017 nooooo! Hang in there! The new growth does look good still. Did you put it in a different location? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HannahMariia Posted May 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2017 nooooo! Hang in there! The new growth does look good still. Did you put it in a different location?Yeah I have, I've put it on a south east windowsill it was on a southwest window before. I won't give up on it...not yet anyway! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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