Deltatango301 Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 Looks dead to me image in May looks good do they die off early or is this one RIP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicat Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 I once had a drosera that died, but it came back from the roots.. Never give up too soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deltatango301 Posted October 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 Yes I agree, but wondered if this one died off early before proper winter. see what other replies say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 All my temperate Drosera have died down. Look into the crown of the plant, I'm pretty confident you will find the tightly packed resting bud (hibernaculum). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 Failing that I bet you will find some seed in those pods you can use to start again [emoji4] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picol Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 Hi DT301, i enterely quote what Richard wrote: try to check for hybernaculum, if you don't find any of them try with seeds, but spread them on live sphagnum moss, i had good result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deltatango301 Posted October 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 On 17 October 2016 at 9:58 PM, picol said: Hi DT301, i enterely quote what Richard wrote: try to check for hybernaculum, if you don't find any of them try with seeds, but spread them on live sphagnum moss, i had good result. Took the plant out of the pot to look for any signs of life, completely dead as a door nail rotten. checked the 2 flower storks no seeds, will get in touch with Matt at HCP see what I have done wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picol Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Try to improve the air circulation in the greenhouse, hybernaculums are very sensible to lack of air and sunlight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark funnell Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) How strange, have you had them long?Mine have formed a resting bud for the winter. I keep them standing in water all summer then they are kept moist during the winter. They are outside all year. Edited October 20, 2016 by mark funnell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deltatango301 Posted October 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) 17 hours ago, picol said: Try to improve the air circulation in the greenhouse, hybernaculums are very sensible to lack of air and sunlight. I do have plenty of air circulation 2 auto side vents 2 auto roof vents, also open the door very day summer and winter I just wonder if on a very hot day this summer that anglica got too much sun ? not got a reply from Matt yet at HCP Edited October 20, 2016 by Deltatango301 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ada Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 they would have been better off in the barrel we can see at the corner of the greenhouse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deltatango301 Posted October 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Boy I would have used all my spagmum planting them in there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picol Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 2 hours ago, Deltatango301 said: Boy I would have used all my spagmum planting them in there yes it would have been better, i grow rotundifolia, intermedia and anglica in live sphagnum and they are thriving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Fill it with a peat/sand/perlite mix DT and add a couple of inches of Sphagnum on top! Temperate Sundews do much better outside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deltatango301 Posted October 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 I will buy a replacement in the spring, but don't want to put them outside will keep them out of the very hot sun put them in the back of the greenhouse in cooler place and top off with live sphagnum moss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picol Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 I don' t think english sun could be a problem, they are tougher than you may think. Mine (from seed germinated in spring) survived to a extemely hot and long lasting italian summer. I grow mine with a lot of live sphagnum in full sun, open air with just a coverage above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deltatango301 Posted October 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, picol said: I don' t think english sun could be a problem, they are tougher than you may think. Mine (from seed germinated in spring) survived to a extemely hot and long lasting italian summer. I grow mine with a lot of live sphagnum in full sun, open air with just a coverage above. I know what you are saying but yours were outside so plenty of air circulation it can get very very hot on a few days here in summer in the greenhouse maybe I just got unlucky with its position I also lost a rotundifolia but that came back when i put it at the back of the greenhouse out of full sun. Edited October 22, 2016 by Deltatango301 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 I've never had success keeping temperate Sundews in the greenhouse to be honest. But I have seen people who have so it is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partisangardener Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) When D.anglica starts to get a hibernacula, its roots will die back, so there is no re growth from the roots. The temperature in a greenhouse gets sometimes too high for the temperate species, even in Britain weather. The sun outside in wet sphagnum is always lower because of the cooling effect of the wet Sphagnum even in Italy. You can keep a Cola quite cold wrapped in a wet towel even in the sun. ;) But it won’t work in a greenhouse, when the water level in the air gets too high no water will evaporate anymore to take the warmth away. Edited October 22, 2016 by partisangardener Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picol Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 Hi Partisangardener, i must apologize, i misreaded what DT301 wrote about keeping them in the greenhouse. My words was only referred to growing temperate sundews outside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tatter Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 On 22/10/2016 at 2:15 PM, Deltatango301 said: I know what you are saying but yours were outside so plenty of air circulation it can get very very hot on a few days here in summer in the greenhouse maybe I just got unlucky with its position I also lost a rotundifolia but that came back when i put it at the back of the greenhouse out of full sun. Terry do you use any shading at all ie coolglass or shading net ? it might help jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deltatango301 Posted October 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 (edited) No don't use any, of cause when I'm was growing veg I did. I think its just about getting more experience with the Drosera and placing them in the greenhouse in the correct position with the right potting medium VFT and Sarracenia seem to be ok BTW I have only lost 3 out of over 40 so must be doing something right its just making sure I learn more about the temperate sundews Edited October 23, 2016 by Deltatango301 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 (edited) On 23/10/2016 at 6:36 PM, Deltatango301 said: No don't use any, of cause when I'm was growing veg I did. Hi Terry, one thing you might consider is increase your ventilation by removing some of your panes of glass during the summer, should be easy with your greenhouse with the bar capping. I've had problems for a few years with cacti and succulents dying during any hot spells we might have and there are plenty of days in a typical British summer when a greenhouse can hit 40C. I already had fans running 24/7 but it still didn't stop my plants dying. This year I removed 2 panes of glass then fixed netting over the empty window (stop birds, bumble bees, rain etc getting in). This helped a lot and has definitely reduced the number of plants dying. For cold or wet days I bought some 2mm perspex and fixed it over the window with velcro and even trained my wife how to fix/remove it while I was at work I've just put the glazing back in for the winter but instead of putting the original glass back I bought 5mm perspex which is easier for me to carry about and don't have to worry about breaking. Of course you could dispense with the expense of perspex and use any old plastic sheet for the rainy days and refit the original glass in winter, the point is to improve the movement of air around the greenhouse when it's hot. Good luck, Drosera anglica is a nice plant so don't give up. Edited October 24, 2016 by Gaz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deltatango301 Posted October 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 You got me thinking now, I might consider putting in another double auto slates in the side to give more ventilation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 That should help, I wish I'd put more vents in mine in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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