Incursion Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 I'm extremely new to Ultricularia's.... and before I start nursing what could potentially be a weed... I'd like to know if this is one thats spontaeously grown. (If it helps I did get the original pinguicula featured in this picture from a carnivorous plant nursery so anything is possible. Ultricularia experts out there, point me in the right direction please :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoLongFairWell Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 It is a Utricularia. It could be U. bisquamata or U. subulata. Both are weeds in a collection if you don't want them. Particularly U. subulata which often produces seed pods prolifically without even flowering. Cunning little bugger. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incursion Posted August 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Thank you for a quick reply, where it is at the moment I'm not too fussy over, but I do have other Utricularia's sprouting out of other pots which... although are unique to my collection, are kind of in the middle of some of my more presitguous plants. As long as they dont overgrow they seem to be happy growing together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoLongFairWell Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 You can never really get rid of the invasive species of Utricularia anyway. The only place where they really seam to cause damage is if one of the weedy ones seeds its way into one of your prized non-weedy Utrics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incursion Posted August 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Fair enough, thank you for the advice, I shall keep that in mind as my collection grows :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cephalotus Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 I can see there only a moss, not even a single leaf of U. busquamata/subulata. I don't remember its name, but I know it well. Later I can check my books and try to identify it more or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilacina Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 It´s definitely not an utric,it´s livermoss and if I where you I´d remove it a.s.a.p.which can very easily been done with forceps. Livermosses quickly cover all smaller CP like utrics and genlisea and smother them. Even if the moss grows just on the surface of the soil,not over another plant, it prevents that oxygen will reach the roots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cephalotus Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 (edited) It´s definitely not an utric,it´s livermoss and if I where you I´d remove it a.s.a.p.which can very easily been done with forceps. Livermosses quickly cover all smaller CP like utrics and genlisea and smother them. Even if the moss grows just on the surface of the soil,not over another plant, it prevents that oxygen will reach the roots. It can overgrow some very tiny plants, that is true, but I haven't seen it causing any serious damage to any of them, except making them to compete for the light. But such observation I have with other mosses and very small plants. I think that under the water roots will have less oxygen than with a layer of mosses on the soil. And yet we often even submerge some Genlisea and Utricularia without negative effects. This moss is Riccardia sp. Maybe R. multifida, maybe some other, impossible to tell from a photo. Edited August 21, 2015 by Cephalotus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoLongFairWell Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 I could have sworn that I saw Utric leaves in there amongst the moss but it's very difficult to see the wood for the trees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incursion Posted August 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Ah ok doke well thank you for the input, I will see if I can gracefully remove it from my soil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredG Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 It does look something like Metzgeria furcata the Forked Veilwort. The photo's not that sharp though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cephalotus Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 It does look something like Metzgeria furcata the Forked Veilwort. The photo's not that sharp though It is not a Metzgeria sp., which has a strong, easily visible, central "nerve". The one above does not have any and the photo does not have to be sharp to notice that. There was a time when I was very much interested in mosses and I still remember some more common ones from their look. Beside Metzgeria sp. is more like a mountain species, prefers colder ecosystems, wile Riccardia sp. is a lot more widespread and heat tolerant genus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredG Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 The one above does not have any and the photo does not have to be sharp to notice that. At the age my eyes are at it does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredG Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 (edited) Beside Metzgeria sp. is more like a mountain species, prefers colder ecosystems, wile Riccardia sp. is a lot more widespread and heat tolerant genus. While I will readily dismiss Metzgeria sp. due to the lack of a mid rib I'm afraid the rest of your reasoning citing temperatures is, I'm afraid, excuse the expression, hot air. If you look at the distribution map for the species I mentioned you will see that it grows widely in the UK, including Lincolnshire which is not generally noted for its mountains http://www.bbsfieldguide.org.uk/sites/default/files/pdfs/liverworts/Metzgeria_furcata.pdf BTW I'd be tempted to weed the pot ie remove the Pinguicula and keep the liverwort Edited August 22, 2015 by FredG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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