Christian Voss Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Hi there, my pings seemd to feel very comfortable this years and grew much larger than last year. So this was the reason to take pictures of my entire collection. Last time I did this, was in september 2010. You can take a look here. I´m a bit ashamed by the look of the plants and the technique of the photos now, but you can get an idea of the delvelopement... Today, I use bigger pots, another mix of substrate and much, much more light. As far as available, I show one photo of the plant with summer leaves, one with winter leaves and a flower closeup. For those, which cannot await new photos, I uploaded all of them to the gallery. So, here´s the first part of the photos. (It´s a mass, I´ll add them day by day when I have time to spare). Pinguicula acuminata Pinguicula agnata {Barranca de Toliman, near Zimapan, Hidalgo} Pinguicula agnata 'dark blue flower' Pinguicula agnata 'EKUMA' Pinguicula sp. ANPA C ...end of the first part (I have been called for a meal). Hopefully I can add some more today. Christian 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longma Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Just from what you have shown so far, you have some lovely species and they appear to be growing beautifully . Congratulations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFLguy Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Beautiful plants! What substrate are you using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Voss Posted October 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 ... mmhhh, good meal! Thank you guys, I´ll do my best. @SFLGuy I use a very colourfull mix with main components dark peat (H6) and pumice. In detail it´s 6 parts peat, 3 parts pumice, 2 parts vermiculite, 2 parts sand, one part clay, one part perlite and one part coconut fibre. Here we go, the next ones are: Pinguicula sp. ANPA D Pinguicula colimensis Pinguicula crassifolia Pinguicula cyclosecta Pinguicula ehlersiae Pinguicula sp. El Mirador Pinguicula esseriana Pinguicula gigantea Pinguicula gracilis Thats all for today. I hope, tomorrow will be enough time to add some more. Best regards, Christian 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnivine Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 great photos - very nice plants indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlatokrt Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Stunning pictures & plants! BTW: by "much, much more light" I presume, you grow them under artificial lights? Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Voss Posted October 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 (edited) Yes, I grow them under two T8-tubes with reflector (840 and 865) in ca. 25cm distance to the plants. I use them for 12 hours in the summer and step by step down to 7 hours in winter. For me it's absolutely neccessary to give them enough light. Without this, you will not get the colouration and the plants stay mostely green. I think, insufficient light is the reason, that some philistines misscall the pings "carnivorous salad". I tried to grow them in the greenhouse under natural sunlight in 2011. The colouration was good but the summerheat let them suffer to much, so I gave up the project. Christian Edited October 12, 2014 by VChr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Voss Posted October 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 Hi there, here are the next ones for today: Pinguicula hemiepiphytica Pinguicula ibarrae Pinguicula jaumavensis Pinguicula sp. Köhres Pinguicula laueana Pinguicula laueana 'SP3' Pinguicula sp. Lautner 92/52 Pinguicula macrophylla Pinguicula martinezii Pinguicula sp. Sierra Matzatekas ... to be continued. Best regards, Christian 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 Hi, Beautiful photos ! It is not my favorite kind but I love particularly this specie : Pinguicula esseriana, Pinguicula cyclosecta and Pinguicula hemiepiphytica :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notostracan Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 As other have said, beautiful photographs! You are inspiring me both to collect more pings, and to use my camera to take better pics of my plants! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 A great collection of well grown Pings, thanks for sharing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlatokrt Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Thanks for reply! I tried them outside too this year, in a ventilated cold frame (partially underground and walls made of fine mesh, only roof is made of polycarbonate). The heat was not a problem there, but slugs damaged plants a lot, even though i tried hard to prevent them to get there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Voss Posted October 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 (edited) Hi and thanks for all the compliments. That´s the time, you know, what all the care is for... So here we go with the next pictures: Pinguicula moranensis {Vera Paz, Guatemala} ... not P. mesophytica (see Erics post #22 on page 2) Pinguicula mirandae Pinguicula moctezumae Pinguicula moranensis var. alba Pinguicula moranensis var. rosei Pinguicula sp. Pachuca Pinguicula parvifolia (my favorite) Pinguicula potosiensis 'red leaves' Pinguicula rectifolia ... next time I´ll show the last species-pics and start with the hybrids... All the best, Christian Edited October 20, 2014 by VChr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kisscool_38 Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Very nice collection, and nicely grown plants! Unfortunately your Pinguicula mesophytica is not the right species ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Voss Posted October 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Hi 'kisscool', first, thanks for the compliment. And second, why do you think that it isn't the right one? If I compare it to this http://icps.proboards.com/thread/3544 and many other pictures in the CPPhotofinder, I cannot find the difference. I'm still waiting for the first flower of this species, it's still a young plant... Christian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kisscool_38 Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Because the clone widely spred into culture is simply not the right species, it doesn't match the description in most aspects. First of all, it doesn't form winter rosette for example. The real species is only in culture for one year or so. I will try to make some pictures soon to show it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Voss Posted October 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 (edited) Ah, OK. Do you have any idea, what this is instead? It does not match any other species I grow. By the way, do you know a source where I can get the real species? Oh, and feel free to post the pics here. I'm interested in seeing the true species. Edited October 15, 2014 by VChr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longma Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 I agree Christian, I too wish that anyone who says " it's not the correct species ", should also say why this is the case. This way we can all learn and avoid making the same mistake, or challenge the judgement if we feel we can make a better call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Voss Posted October 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 (edited) New ones today: Pinguicula rotundiflora Pinguicula sp. Tolantongo Pinguicula zecheri This was the last picture of a pure species. The other plants aren´t showy enough but I´ll post pictures as soon as they are. I now want to start showing pictures of my ping-hybrids. As long as they are "self-produced", I´m going to write some words about the cross. So, here we go with... Pinguicula agnata 'scented flower' x moctezumae Pinguicula agnata x gracilis Pinguicula agnata x jaumavensis Pinguicula 'Apasionada' (sorry for the bad flower-pic) Pinguicula 'Aphrodite' Pinguicula colimensis x gigantea 'white flower' Pinguicula colimensis x heterophylla ... more will follow soon. Best regards, Christian Edited October 17, 2014 by VChr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Evans Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Hello Christian, I am pretty sure those ANPA plants are all cultivars of moranensis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Voss Posted October 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 (edited) Hi Dave, yes, you are right. These plants were grown by ANdre PAvlovic and Jan Flisek, who got leaves from him, named the plants ANPA A, ANPA B, ANPA C and ANPA D. As far as I know, all of them are P. moranensis clones from different locations. More information here: http://pinguicula.org/pages/plantes/pinguicula_ANPA.htm Christian Edited October 19, 2014 by VChr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epbb Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 I agree Christian, I too wish that anyone who says " it's not the correct species ", should also say why this is the case. This way we can all learn and avoid making the same mistake, or challenge the judgement if we feel we can make a better call. Dear Longma and Christian, Two growers in Europe have received the originated seeds from Guatemala (I am one of them) and gave it to a cp nursery to insure germination and widespreads. It was written : "P. mesophytica, Vera Paz Form, Guatemala". P. mesophytica was not found in Vera Paz and the sender, a botanist in Guatemala told us that the species was identified by Dr Zamudio. So we have no reason to think of a wrong plant. After germination and flowering, we discovered that this species was not fitting with the description of P. mesophytica by Dr Zamudio. But unfortunately, the species was distributed before we confirmed the identification. But as I wrote, the sender gave us the Dr Zamudio's name as a moral guarantee and the seeds was offered and not sold. The species is a P. moranensis from Vera Paz, Guatemala and not P. mesophytica. As far as I know, the true specie entered cultivation but not yet in Europe but it should be available in a few years as soon as the grower will have seeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longma Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 Thank you for the explanation Eric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Voss Posted October 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 Many thanks to you Eric, now I understand the circumstances. I´ll correct the plant lables and hope to get the true species soon. And here are the next hybrid pictures: Pinguicula emarginata x sp. ANPA C Beginning with a hybrid "made" by myself. The plants are very close to the mother plant P. emarginata in summer. In the winter they form dense winterrosettes like the father. The colouration of the flowers reaches from nearly white to dark violet striped. It flowers from the winter- and the summerrosette, nearly year-round. Pinguicula emarginata x laueana Pinguicula gracilis x emarginata Pinguicula gracilis x rotundiflora Pinguicula gypsicola x moctezumae Pinguicula sp. Lautner 92/52 x gypsicola 'Buena Vista' (I won the seeds of that hybrid at a forum auction. C. Weinberger did the cross. It´s one of my favourites. Beautyfull colours, dense droplets and a gypsicola-winterrosette.) Pinguicula medusina x (ehlersiae x moranensis) Pinguicula moctezumae x sp. ANPA C ... is another one of my own crosses. The plant has long leaves like P. moctezumae, but they are much broader. It forms no real winterrosette, only stays a little smaller when letting it dry out in winter. The flower is a mix of both plarent plants. Enough for today, best regards, Christian 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Voss Posted October 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) Hello again, after some days, here we go with the next update of the hybrid-photos. Starting with the one, I´m very proud of: Pinguicula nivalis x moctezumae ... is a cross of the tiny P. nivalis and the long-leafed P. moctezumae, which I did in early 2010. This plants stay very small, around 4-5cm in diameter, but have the long leaf appearance from the moctezumae. In the center, it is hary like the nivalis and the leaf colour can turn into light brown. Unfortunately I missed to photograph the only flower it had up to now. The form was nivalis-like but it had a light pinkish touch in colour. Pinguicula 'Tina' Pinguicula 'Weser' That´s all. I hope you enjoyed the photos and could get an idea from how the Pings can look like when they have enough light. In the meantime I did some new and interesting crosses. I´ll post them as soon as they show their characteristics. Best regards, Christian Edited October 26, 2014 by VChr 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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