Marek Wozny Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 The plant must definitely go to the gym and take more proteins - if You want 10cm :-). Really impressive size, Congratulations ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 So the lid is included in the measurements?massive pitcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokie22 Posted November 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Preferably, I would like there to be a standard of measurement for pitcher size. Because the lid varies in its angle, with 90 degrees being completely vertical, there is a difference in the percentage that the lid may contribute to the total height of a pitcher. However, there is no such standard in place. Thus, I consulted with senior growers, those who have experience well beyond my years, and pictures who I have salivated over, such as Charles Brewer and BigBella. Those on this forum should be aware of their cephalotus, and have viewed pictures of their specimens over the years. They give the measurement of their pitchers from the bottom of the pitcher to the top of the lid. And for consistency sake, I will measure mine as such so as to not add to the confusion of information here. Of course, one can always measure things as one one sees fit, so I have included a picture with a ruler (and with one including my thumb for reference, LOL). Adhering to this informal methodology, we can compare pitchers, but I believe the bottom of the pitcher to the top of the peristome is ultimately more definitive. In that case, this pitchers measures 7cm, from the bottom of the pitcher to the peristome. In a survey on the percentage that a lid contributes to total cephalotus pitcher height from a few dozen of my plants, it can account for 25-50% of the total pitcher height. I suspect that forum members also report their pitcher height from the bottom of the pitcher to the top of the lid, however I have found but a few pictures with a ruler. In most cases, I have found reports of "X.Xcm", without actual evidence. I believe that data always trumps claims, and leaves no leeway for arguments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobile Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Is that an American Standard Thumb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokie22 Posted November 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Is that an American Standard Thumb For reference, my thumb from apex to tip is 6.1cm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 (edited) Good answer,I was in no way trying to rubbish such a great pitcher.But you may well reach the magic 10cm if the lid does the vertical thing(dimitars is a good example top of page).I think I could almost fit my biggest ceph in that pitcher pot an all Edited November 20, 2014 by corky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North West Neps Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Wouldn't it make sense to measure cephalotus from the base of the pitcher to the hinge of the lid, and then there would be no arguments over angle of the lid ? This is how i've decided to measure my nepenthes anyway, but i guess it would be a lot more difficult to measure the back of a ceph pitcher. Unless of course you cut it off first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 It might make sense Welshy but then what would we have to argue about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North West Neps Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 (edited) Well i didn't mean argue as such, i should have used the word dicuss really. But in hindsight it wouldn't work anyway as it would make everyone's pitchers smaller, and i can't see anyone having that Edited November 20, 2014 by Welshy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimitar Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 For reference, my thumb from apex to tip is 6.1cm. That's fine but I wonder what size are other parts of your body lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CephFan Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) I don't care how you measure it... it's a monster! Cheers, Steve Edited November 21, 2014 by CephFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokie22 Posted November 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North West Neps Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 That's fine but I wonder what size are other parts of your body lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokie22 Posted November 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 ................. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lalle973 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 wowwwwww Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tish Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 :wub :That is the biggest and longest I've ever seen. Even without the measurement of the lid included. Good job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wozzen Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 What's the size of the other pitchers on the plant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokie22 Posted November 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Normal pitchers on this plant are 7-8cm - nothing remarkable for a Hummer's giant. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wozzen Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Great to see - that's what I was looking for to see how asymmetrical the plant was. Good return lets hope they carry on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokie22 Posted December 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2014 The green bulge appears . A little faster than normal Charles Brewer typical #1, sowed on 11/19/14 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokie22 Posted December 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 (edited) This Hummer's giant pitcher has reached its full potential and stands at 10.1cm or 4 inches. Alright, now in return, I would like to see examples of other cephalotus giant pitchers. I know there are many growers here with decades of growing experience, and surely I can not be the first to cultivate a 10cm cephalotus pitcher. I know there are many individuals such as myself, who would not publicly show their plants, and neither would I, if it were not for the request from a dear friend. Edited December 6, 2014 by pokie22 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blocky71 Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 I'm sure I heard somewhere that the ladies usually prefer more than 4 inches Stunning looking plant / plants Pokie I hope next year I have a fraction of your growing rate / success. Thanks for photo's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokie22 Posted January 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 Two new forming pitchers on my HG1. My money is on the right side one.And here is HG1, who put out a very long leaf to escape the bush, 7''+ 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimitar Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Cephalotus Typical (MH) This plant can achieve dark colors if given the correct stimulation. The pitchers are short and fat. Pictures of its progression through time. Dark coloration isn't achieved as u say but I do agree that this Michael Hardvick clone definitely gets short and fat pitchers, rather I would say lovely dwarf plant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokie22 Posted July 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 All my cephs are flowering at the moment. Here's a few of them.They are all grown up now! Of course, I am busy with my paintbrush and hope to repay other growers for their great generosity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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