snapperhead51 Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 now its seems safe to put these up as other have been posted, just dont ask where please, you know the answer all ready ,locations will not be posted or emailed or told ,so just be happy with the photos please . may even post a video or two . some cephs in normal undergrowth of 2 peoples Bay road Coal mine beach ceph 2 people bay road site that will do for now 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapperhead51 Posted March 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 coal mine beach before the land slides, all this is gone now this is what it looks like now same section 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cephalotus Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Simply amazing. So much thanks for sharing! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcel van den Broek Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 I remember that place, no worries it will recover if left alone. Natural process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimitar Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 (edited) Nice. Edited March 5, 2014 by dimitar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredG Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 I remember that place, no worries it will recover if left alone. Natural process. Now I'm puzzled. How can the site recover when it no longer exists? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 such a shame,thanks for sharing your pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Silverman93 Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Now I'm puzzled. How can the site recover when it no longer exists? I think he means it may eventually be re-colonised if left alone for a sufficient enough time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Silverman93 Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 (edited) Bloody double post Edited March 5, 2014 by 19Silverman93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredG Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 I think he means it may eventually be re-colonised if left alone for a sufficient enough time Did you watch and listen to the video? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Silverman93 Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Did you watch and listen to the video? well it's hardly going to be overnight is it? but given enough time it's possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapperhead51 Posted March 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 (edited) Its very hard to even see the amount of damage on this video , you needed to be there if you know what i mean, , if and only if the rest of the soil dose not slide away , the plants that are left , and there are 2 good patches left , will expand, BUT , is what i think will happen, happens and the soil that is extremely just literally hanging on barely , slides away then, its gone for good. you need to know that under the soil is just coal rock, no roots or grass or trees can penetrate it to stabilize the remains soils, and the water seepage flows on top of the coal rock face , underneath the soil , ,is why it slid off in this storm . Marcel you remember the fist section of coal mine , there is only may be 20% of the soil left hanging precariously , another storm and it would slide off, if it has not all ready happened, as above that is no plants and very little soil left , the other section past the big rock , remember , the whole soil slid off the rock face , a bit further down to ward to boat ramp , , really is going to happen here to , well over 1/2 of that area where those ceph were is gone, Richard is going past next week will stop there and take some shots to see if it same or worse . this is the area I'm talking about where the soil has slid off the rock underneath , this is what i feel will happen to the second section sooner than later, i hope not really , its happened here , so is possible just possible it will continuous ,as it has all ready started !. hopefully is stopped for now, new present day photos next week will tell us, so fingers crossed . sorry for all the doom and gloom , but its just a very important site to me and many others , and just feel helpless to not to be able to do any thing !!. Edited March 6, 2014 by snapperhead51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel O. Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 It´s really a pity what had happened. Please keep us informed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimitar Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 In cultivation: Cephalotus Two People’s Bay seedlings Cephalotus Two People’s Bay Cephalotus Two People’s Bay Cephalotus Coal mine beach - seedlings Cephalotus Coal mine beach Cephalotus Coal mine beach 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmatil Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 It's nice to see cephalotus in its natural habitat but it's a shame to see that those kind of sites get "destroyed". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapperhead51 Posted March 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 cant help nature , .lucky most sites are well protected and 99.9% or people have know idea where they are or how to find them so will be safe for long long time . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jozef Havrilcak Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Dimi good color Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ada Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 nature can be cruel,but some plants are in cultivation thanks to John and Dimitar through their efforts with seed. ada 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CephFan Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 Great videos, it is very useful to see some location shots like these. Interesting to see the subsequent loss of habitat due to natural processes (which makes a change). Are there any plants on the inland side of the cliff edge? Any damp areas/seeps up there? Also nice to put a voice to a name. Thanks again. Cheers , Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapperhead51 Posted March 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 Great videos, it is very useful to see some location shots like these. Interesting to see the subsequent loss of habitat due to natural processes (which makes a change). Are there any plants on the inland side of the cliff edge? Any damp areas/seeps up there? Also nice to put a voice to a name. Thanks again. Cheers , Steve there are no cephs other than these around this area, even though the soil , light and other aspects are suitable form some walks I did looking at Tuber drosera , at the top of the cliff and over the road , they are only in this small area ,( they tend to do this a lot ) , that is slowly being eroded away . there are other ceph locations near by , only a few kilometers away as the crow fly's, ,but they are not ones that colour like Coal mine plants . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapperhead51 Posted March 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 these are plants several Km away from Coal mine on the other side of the inlet area 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CephFan Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 Thanks John, It is great to see location shots. Interesting that the precise distribution of the plants can be so tightly limited. On a macro scale Cephs are off CITES2 with quite a broad general distribution up that stretch of coast but on a micro scale each locality is still pretty delicate. Cheers, Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapperhead51 Posted March 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 there limited to there particular needs to live in there habitat ,is quite specific ,and why they just dont grow any where, , would think that before man stumbled around and made farm land, and crops and towns in these areas , there would have been loads more places they grew in abundance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Silverman93 Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 I wonder if there are any suitable places around the original coal mine beach spot that are stable enough in the long term to consider re-planting? (if that's even a done thing. I don't know I'm only thinking out loud here) I mean if there are plants of pure descent from seed of the site or even actual seed from the few ceph's left there would that even be possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapperhead51 Posted March 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) your plants have come a long way Dimi , there looken good mate great job, , now to get some colour into mine after all that hot weather, seems i have to play catch up to you a lot these days :) Edited March 7, 2014 by snapperhead51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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