SoLongFairWell Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 A quick question about the method, are these leaf pullings or leaf cuttings? Are they removed from the rhizome or snipped anywhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobile Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 A quick question about the method, are these leaf pullings or leaf cuttings? Are they removed from the rhizome or snipped anywhere? I pull the leaves from as low down the plant as possible, with the intention of trying to break it off as near to the rhizome as possible. But, as mentioned earlier, I had one break off a little high and it still rooted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blocky71 Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 Is there any difference in the growth of the pullings between a pitcher and a leaf? I.E do they/ will they both take the same time to reach maturity do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobile Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 I tend to find that the speed of which pulling develop is dependant on the actual size of the material, i.e. leaf or pitcher size, with the larger developing faster. This is only a personal observation though and I have not performed any actual controlled experiment. One of the issues with larger pullings though is they can be subject to excessive transpiration, but this shouldn't be an issue if using the water rooting method. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North West Neps Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 If anyone would like to sell me some of their rooted cuttings, please bare me in mind as i can't afford to buy a mature plant while i'm off work on long term sick I did buy a small Ceph a few months ago from a reputable online cp store for £10, but it refused to grow and died a few weeks later. When i received the plant, it had a slight dusty white appearance to it, but being a newbie back then, i didn't know what it was. By the time the plant had died, i knew then what the cause was, but guessed it too late to complain to the seller. I did give it a treatment of Bayer's Fungus Fighter and placed it in front of a permanently open window in good light (after reading some suggestions on here) but it never pulled through. I wish this thread had started before i threw out my Ceph, as i could've tried this method from some of the few healthy looking leaves that remained and maybe salvaged something. I would therefore love to get some Cephalotus in my collection please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattynatureboy44 Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 If anyone would like to sell me some of their rooted cuttings, please bare me in mind as i can't afford to buy a mature plant while i'm off work on long term sick I have a few available from earlier in the year some 6 months + old and with a few small pitchers and leaves putting on new growth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North West Neps Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 Matty, i'll pm you so as not to hijack this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattynatureboy44 Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 Mine have been a few days under a month in rainwater and although all the leaves are alive there are still no roots to see! Maybe they need more light? as I have them in a very shaded area with no direct light or maybe it's the rainwater that's making them take longer? I may move a few in to more light, I would still be happy if they start to root within two more weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobile Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 Mine don't receive much light. They are behind a pot, which is under a grow light, so they just receive some indirect light. Whilst mine have rooted within a month, the roots are still tiny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCurrell Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 (edited) This thread inspired me to try some VFT Cuttings, just put em in de-ionized water. I'll update in a few weeks. Edited July 20, 2013 by TCurrell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoLongFairWell Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 If anyone has any rooted cuttings of the larger clones they'd be willing to sell then please contact me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenofeden Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 (edited) A quick question about the method, are these leaf pullings or leaf cuttings? Are they removed from the rhizome or snipped anywhere? A leaf cutting is a horticultural term for a variety of propagation techniques involving leaves and does not always involve the act of "cutting", for example I always pull my Pelargonium and carnation cuttings from the mother plants, you get better rooting success. . Many leaf cuttings are actually pulled off plants. "Leaf pullings" is a made up term by someone who does not understand horticultural technical terms, and with such a poor grasp of the English language that they only understand an absolutely literal definition. A "leaf pulling" is actually a leaf cutting, and should be referred to as such. Edited July 20, 2013 by gardenofeden 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenofeden Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 And my wife has just accused me of being anally retentive... :) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredG Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 But she meant it in a nice way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus B Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 And my wife has just accused me of being anally retentive... :) I just consider that to be a term used by those who don't understand, or appreciate, correct terminology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattynatureboy44 Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 (edited) Seems they work just as well in rainwater, as today I was changing the water for fresh rainwater and upon doing this I found roots on at least 6 plants including a very small dying pitcher and a leaf which broke short and had not much stem with it. The Hummers Giant leaves seem to be doing good all 4 that I took have taken root very well already. So this has taken them around a month to root. Some pics WP_20130725_004 by mattynatureboy44, on Flickr WP_20130725_003 by mattynatureboy44, on Flickr WP_20130725_002 by mattynatureboy44, on Flickr Edited July 25, 2013 by mattynatureboy44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veek Posted July 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 Back from vacation. Seems people have had some good experiences already with the waterleafcuttings. From the boxes I left behind I got some rooted leaves. The pitchercuttings I took weren't a big succes. Only one of the 4 is still looking good but yet no roots. The leaves of the VFT Wacky Trap are still nicely green but also no roots yet. I'll upload some pics later this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoLongFairWell Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 None of my pitcher cuttings (catesbaei) were successful either. But I suspect it may have been down to poor bagging on my part. Next time will put a stake in the pot prior to bagging to avoid collapse and wrecking pitchers. None of my Dionaea cuttings worked, buggered if I know why but it's annoyed me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veek Posted July 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 None of my pitcher cuttings (catesbaei) were successful either. But I suspect it may have been down to poor bagging on my part. Next time will put a stake in the pot prior to bagging to avoid collapse and wrecking pitchers. None of my Dionaea cuttings worked, buggered if I know why but it's annoyed me. Do pitchercuttings from sarracenia work? I've never tried it but I don't know if it works or not. You Dionaea cuttings all turned brown I suppose? As I said before the Wacky Trap are inside about 4 weeks and still are looking green only no rooting yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCurrell Posted July 31, 2013 Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 Ive got a sarra purp pitcher in water at the moment, it been in two weeks with no roots yet but a tiny bit of browning around the rhizome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoLongFairWell Posted July 31, 2013 Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 Do pitchercuttings from sarracenia work? I've never tried it but I don't know if it works or not. You Dionaea cuttings all turned brown I suppose? As I said before the Wacky Trap are inside about 4 weeks and still are looking green only no rooting yet. Barry Rice tried it and had some success with some species and none with a few others, it was a tiny experiment though. Purpurea works reasonably I believe. Get a pitcher and some of its heel from the rhizome and treat with hormone rooting powder, put in a pot of sphagnum and enclose in plastic bag. I'd recommend a stick or two in the pot to stop the bag flopping over and disturbing the cutting as that's what happened to mine. Yes all my Dionaea ones went black. I don't know why though. Any suggestions. Sorry for going off topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veek Posted July 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 Barry Rice tried it and had some success with some species and none with a few others, it was a tiny experiment though. Purpurea works reasonably I believe. Get a pitcher and some of its heel from the rhizome and treat with hormone rooting powder, put in a pot of sphagnum and enclose in plastic bag. I'd recommend a stick or two in the pot to stop the bag flopping over and disturbing the cutting as that's what happened to mine. Yes all my Dionaea ones went black. I don't know why though. Any suggestions. Sorry for going off topic. Nice to know it works the sarracenia-cuttings. What water are you using? Closed box or an open one? What kind of light? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoLongFairWell Posted July 31, 2013 Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 Nice to know it works the sarracenia-cuttings. What water are you using? Closed box or an open one? What kind of light? Is this aimed at me re my Dionaea leaf cuttings (which weren't done in water) or to the main thread about the Ceph ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnivourus Plants-fan Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 My first Cephalotus cuttings took 6 months to produce new leafs. Today I put 5 leafs in a glass of demineralised water und hope it produce fast roots. I will tell you, if I have success. Regards Benedikt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veek Posted August 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 Is this aimed at me re my Dionaea leaf cuttings (which weren't done in water) or to the main thread about the Ceph ones? Yes it was since I thought you were taking them in the water. My first Cephalotus cuttings took 6 months to produce new leafs. Today I put 5 leafs in a glass of demineralised water und hope it produce fast roots. I will tell you, if I have success. Regards Benedikt Keep us posted. Probably in about 4 weeks you should see some root growth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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