FlytrapCare Posted April 23, 2013 Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 Someone on another forum asked about the "Jaws Smiley" flytrap cultivar. I responded that, as far as I can tell, "Jaws Smiley" is nearly identical to 'Alien' and I promised to take a few photos of both for comparison sake. We (FlytrapStore.com) plan to only propagate and offer 'Alien' since it is the officially registered cultivar. I figured I may as well post the comparison photos here as well :) Below are the promised photos of "Jaws Smiley" and 'Alien'. The biggest difference I can see in the plants is the shape of the teeth, which I think look much more menacing on 'Alien'. Alien on the left, Jaws Smiley on the right Largest trap on my 'Alien' mother plant Closeup of 'Alien' "teeth" Close up of 'Alien' trap interior. Notice the multiple small hairs in the bottom of the trap showing up as little red dots. "Jaws Smiley" Close up of "Jaws Smiley" trap interior. It even has the small hairs in the bottom of the trap just like 'Alien'. I'd love to hear other opinions and experiences with these two interesting cultivars. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klugi Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 Your plants always look so healthy, do you put it down to that moss ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petesredtraps Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 I would say Jaws smiley is easier and more vigorous ,last year my plant produced one trap that was just over 1 1/2 " . This same issue can be said regarding Green Wizzard and Coquillage, now some will say Green Wizzard stays green and that is the difference, but mine doesn't and it gets darker than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Salter Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 Could these two plants have come from the same tissue culture and settled ever so slightly differently? There are just too many similarities bar the very slight differences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantrid Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 Alien often has the membranous growths on the teeth. I havent seen these growths on Jaws Smiley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Salter Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 Alien often has the membranous growths on the teeth. I havent seen these growths on Jaws Smiley. I agree but my point was, could these two plants have possibly derived from the same tissue and the mutations grew slightly differently as they gained maturity? Did they both even originate from tissue culture? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlytrapCare Posted April 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 Your plants always look so healthy, do you put it down to that moss ?? I think it has more to do with the watering technique I use rather than the media. I try to keep the soil just moist and not too wet. This seems to promote the healthiest growth in flytraps. But the moss has proven to be a superior medium for us so far over peat-based media. We'll have to see how this summer goes with the intense heat and dryness. I think it's going to be challenging to keep the plants damp enough. Did they both even originate from tissue culture? I don't know the origins of Jaws Smiley. It could very well be a seedling of Alien. I'd guess that "Green Wizzard" is a seedling of Coquillage. I have quite a few seedlings from Coquillage crosses that look much like Coquillage with varying degrees of coloration. Alien was found by Guillaume at the Carniflora open day, so my guess is that it was started in tissue culture by that company or by whoever they purchase flytraps from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petr Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 (edited) Hi, thank you for sharing the interesting comparison. I am growing Jaws Smiley more than one year and I can say that this plant is very nice and middle-growing (not so fast, but not so slow growing) plant. But the surprise for me was that the plant is relatively big compared to another mutants. :) Edited April 28, 2013 by Petr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshguy84 Posted July 24, 2013 Report Share Posted July 24, 2013 Hi I'm new to CP and this forum. Loving the pics :) Where can I get Alien ? And any other good websitesbetc to get CPs from ? Cheers Kyle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobile Posted July 24, 2013 Report Share Posted July 24, 2013 Where can I get Alien ? And any other good websitesbetc to get CPs from ? Hi Kyle, for at least the second part of your question you might want to look here: http://www.cpukforum.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=49954 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linuxman Posted July 24, 2013 Report Share Posted July 24, 2013 Hi I'm new to CP and this forum. Loving the pics :) Where can I get Alien ? And any other good websitesbetc to get CPs from ? Cheers Kyle Alien seems quite rare. If you find a plant on offer you'll have to pay premium price for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshguy84 Posted July 24, 2013 Report Share Posted July 24, 2013 Mobile Thanks for that but I've checked all the UK dealers. But none seemed to have a big variety of VFT. Linuxman Ill keep a look out for alien then it's definitely on my wish list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoLongFairWell Posted July 24, 2013 Report Share Posted July 24, 2013 It's the teeth that differ. Alien's teeth are sturdier looking and also has some 'micro teeth' (I made up that term). I don't grow either yet but that's from observations I made in Tim Bailey's and Stewart McPherson's book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobile Posted July 24, 2013 Report Share Posted July 24, 2013 Mobile Thanks for that but I've checked all the UK dealers. But none seemed to have a big variety of VFT. You might want to ask Trev if he has: http://www.vftshop.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshguy84 Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 You might want to ask Trev if he has: http://www.vftshop.com/ Thanks I've looked at that site but no idea how you order things :S Or how to contact Trev probably just me being thick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentGuy Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 http://www.vftshop.com/order.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathias Maier Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 Hi all, i have 2 new clones, which look very similar to Alien and Jaws Smiley, i will make some pics over the weekend, so you can see them... Best regards Matze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ketama Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 DM53.jaws smiley par dimsnursery 33, sur Flickr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ketama Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 DM53.jaws smiley par dimsnursery 33, sur Flickr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoLongFairWell Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Thanks I've looked at that site but no idea how you order things :S Or how to contact Trev probably just me being thick http://www.vftshop.com/order.html Trev doesn't have an online ordering system in the more common sense. Like PJ Plants you have to email him. You'll find the email link in the link that SilentGuy posted. He's a lovely guy and even if the plant isn't listed on his website there's still a good chance that he has it. Trev created several plants that are sought after today, including Dracula. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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