Carnivoure12 Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 So the thing that some older clones have been discontinued is true . . . Thanks for clearing this up Andreas. Here's my clone, it is still rather small, I believe it is "clone T" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Wistuba Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 Thanks for clearing that up. It might be better known in Germany of the association between yourself and Thomas Carow but this is the first I had ever heard of it (and probably others) so not that ridiculous... No worries. It's just funny, reading that one taxon becomes another one when going through different hands...;-) All the best Andreas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flycatchers Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 Hi Andeas, Is my N. macrophylla I got from in early 2004 likely to be a different clone to either 5 or T but still a true N. macrophylla? cheers bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thez_yo Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 I'll vouch for Andreas' plants too.. I've recently had three macrophyllas pass through my hands (all with roots and healthy and macrophylla looking) and have kept this third one: which is small but healthy. This was the second with decidedly macrophylla-like leaves as well: There has never been a problem with shipments from him to me. One shipment spend an excessive amount of time at customs I think, and most of the plants perished, but he *resent* everything that looked bad. I'm still getting a resend now, more than 6 months later, because he didn't have the stock on him before - he is good to his word that you will get your shipment, in full, and if they plants don't look good or die he will reship. He even reshipped plants that looked stressed out, but didn't die! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 (edited) Edit: i was wrong. Andreas do not reply often to emails, even if we buy for hundreds bucks, but i assume he is very busy... I just got a order from him, and the plants was perfect. Edited January 7, 2014 by Maiden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Davies Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 (edited) Maiden, I have to disagree. Wistuba's plants are often small, yes, but I've never had a bad plant from him yet. They're always greenhouse hardened and ready to grow away. I actually find smaller plants can be easier to establish than larger ones... they seem to get used to my conditions faster, or maybe they can adapt to the shock of shipping more easily. Bear in mind Andreas caters for us in the Nep enthusiast category... he's not trying to mass-produce large plants to sell in garden centres. Edited January 16, 2013 by Gareth Davies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc S. Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) I also could never complain about plants I got from Andreas, they were always healthy and continued growing without any problems! As an example which fits nicely into this topic: I ordered the second N. macrophylla clone from him, because I wanted to have both in my collection. The plant arrived well packed, was very hardy looking and more than dubbled in size after 6 month in my care!!! The same for Nepenthes villosa and N. x Trusmadiensis I got this summer, which both aren't the easiest highland plants! Andreas offeres really nice and hardy plants. I had never problems with him or his plants and I order from him since 10 years!!! To be honest there was one exception, I also got a plant which died on the next day - but there are few people who can barely grow N. lamii (spec. Doorman's Top 1), because this one is sooo difficult to grow. I informed him about that and I got a replacement as fast as possible! And of course I killed some plants from Andreas after short time after arrival, but this was my fault, because my growing conditions weren't that good at this time... I have also to agree that when you buy big plants (highland Nepenthes or Heliamphora) they suffer much more from shipping than tiny plants and it can take up to half a year or even more till they start growing again! I'm very happy that Andreas runs his business with so much effort and encounters so many new species! The current species list would be much smaller without him. This is all I can say to this topic, to Andreas and his shop! Kind regards Marc Edited January 18, 2013 by Marc S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defalotus Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 I think Wistuba is a great place to order neps too. I must admit I was a lil nervous after reading about his plants "straight out of tissue culture" or being "soft plants" but what I received were some very nice looking, healthy, albeit small, nepenthes and heliamphora. They all adjusted to my conditions just fine. Would definitely recommend them and would certainly purchase more plants from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Davies Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 Marc, aaaargh, I killed two lamii (Doorman's Top 1) within weeks of receiving them, but that's down to it being impossible to grow. It shows how professional (generous) he is that he replaced yours. PS- N lamii still alive with me after 8 months! No increase in size though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Evans Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 (edited) Gareth, there is some disease on some plants from Andreas. I don't know where they pick it up, but I've had many issues with plants from Wistuba over the years, certain plants are simply too difficult. However, I think it isn't a disease as much as some sort of tiny insect or mite, too small to see. Using insecticide that also contains a mite killing ingredient shows remarkable results with new growth being greener and larger. I'm not sure if this applies to N. lamii, but if I still had mine, I would treat them. I've manage to keep it going for over a year, but it was always rather yellowish looking. Edited January 23, 2013 by Dave Evans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Davies Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 Dave, you're right about these invisible mites, they're a major Nep pest. I have no idea what they are, but I've started zapping all my Neps with Provado (thiacloprid) every now and then, which makes all the difference to some species. Every now and then disaster strikes from any new plants- I got an argentii from Best CPs, which I put in a propagator with some attenboroughii seedlings- and a couple of weeks later, everything looked mottled and sick... and in need of a provado treatment to sort it out. From now on, all new plants will get a zap with bug killer before they go in with other plants. Other species are just very very difficult.... lamii (Dorman's Top 1) is top of my list of impossible species. I haven't made any progress with murudensis. I still can't grow villosa and occasionally look at the photo of your awesome plant and weep with envy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Wistuba Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 (edited) Gareth, there is some disease on some plants from Andreas. I don't know where they pick it up, but I've had many issues with plants from Wistuba over the years, certain plants are simply too difficult. However, I think it isn't a disease as much as some sort of tiny insect or mite, too small to see. Using insecticide that also contains a mite killing ingredient shows remarkable results with new growth being greener and larger. I'm not sure if this applies to N. lamii, but if I still had mine, I would treat them. I've manage to keep it going for over a year, but it was always rather yellowish looking. Dear Dave, I can stand quite a bit, but if you're stating that my plants carry an invisible disease that's a bit too much. I'm not really sure if I should rather laugh out loudly or whether I should be angry reading that.... In Germany we have a very tight monitoring by Plant Health officers and my nursery is checked 3-4 times per year. I could not export a single plant for many months if they would ever find any disease here and I can assure you that I monitor my plants very very closely as well....! Fact is that mites are a problem in Nepenthes and everybody growing Nepenthes in a greenhouse should be well aware that these animals literally are everywhere and have to be monitored tightly. In Heliamphora root mealy bugs can cause severe problems. Both of these pests may appear "invisible". Root mealy bugs live under the soil-surface and mites are simply very small. I can assure you that - as I make a living from growing plants - I cannot afford having any of these spreading here! However, I know that they both are very very common among growers. Plants that are weakened after a long shipping journey, make a good victim for all kind of pests. All the best Andreas Edited January 23, 2013 by Andreas Wistuba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Wistuba Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 (edited) P.S. Kanemite (Acequinocyl) is a very good systemic care against mites. Calypso (Thiacloprid) and Bi58/Perfekthion (Dimethoat) work very well against root mealy bugs. Plants have to be watered with a solution. Edited January 23, 2013 by Andreas Wistuba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Evans Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 No Andreas, the plant shipped within Europe don't seem to ever aquire this problem, so obviously this is something State side. Perhaps we have mites over here that are rather attracted to certain species of Nepenthes... I don't know. Save your anger for the pests. And thanks for the tips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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