PofW_Feathers Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 Dear all, Konnichiwa! A paper suggesting Stylidiaceae maybe practicing carnivory has just been published in the International Trigger Plant Society (ITPS) journal No. 2. The ITPS journal No. 2 is available as a free pdf download from www.triggerplants.org There is a lot of other articles as well as photos of many species. The attached photos of Stylidium carlquistii are yet other example of insect prey caught on the scape of a triggerplant. Kind regards from the Far East Stylidium carlquistii Stylidium carlquistii Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Allan Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Very interesting! Someone now needs to perform the more sophisticated nitrogen isotope test. By the way, the article also mentions that carnivory has been proven in Byblis. Has anyone ever actually performed isotope tests with this genus? Cheers, Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PofW_Feathers Posted July 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2011 Dear Greg Allan-san, Konnichiwa! I do not have any document about isotope tests or enzyme. However I am still very interested in "Byblis glandular mucus: could it contain a sleeping drug come anesthetizing agent; nerve immobilizing agent and/or an insecticide?" In the past, I recognized that it was important for the prey to be in contact with the mucus. At this time, I think it might be a volatile material substance that is discharged by disturbance from the struggling prey. Byblis glandular mucus ICPS Byblis glandular mucus cpuk Kind regards from the Far East Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeeland Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 (edited) the flies around my sarracenia are most of the time verry sleepy too it is verry funny to see them walk I think there is some sort of drug in sarracenia nectar Edited July 10, 2011 by zeeland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff 1 Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 (edited) Bonjour I see no name on your stylidium gallery it is normal? jeff Edited August 26, 2011 by jeff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Salter Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 the flies around my sarracenia are most of the time verry sleepy too it is verry funny to see them walk I think there is some sort of drug in sarracenia nectar There is and its Coniine, so no licking Sarracenia ok. Here is a link for you and I notice Coniine is in hemlock too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coniine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimfoxy Posted August 27, 2011 Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 There is and its Coniine, so no licking Sarracenia ok. Here is a link for you and I notice Coniine is in hemlock too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coniine 0.2g will kill you?! Any estimate of the concentration in Sarra nectar? It cannot be much otherwise I suspect there would be a few more dead CPers around! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimfoxy Posted August 27, 2011 Report Share Posted August 27, 2011 Very interesting! Someone now needs to perform the more sophisticated nitrogen isotope test. By the way, the article also mentions that carnivory has been proven in Byblis. Has anyone ever actually performed isotope tests with this genus? Barthlott et al (2007) reports enzyme secretion but, 'The exact uptake path of the digestive products into the plant has not yet been elucidated...' but I expect you have his book, too?! I assume carnivory is proven when enzymes are secreted? For a plant to secrete enzymes but not absorb the products would be strange (would this be evolutionary feasible - washed to the roots, perhaps?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff 1 Posted August 28, 2011 Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 (edited) Bonjour you have a research paper on" evidence of protocarnivory in triggerplants " ( try on laricifolium and fimbriatum ) the digestion seem identical to the D.capensis . it seem also carnivory prior to and during the sexual reproduction . jeff Edited August 28, 2011 by jeff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeeland Posted August 28, 2011 Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 There is and its Coniine, so no licking Sarracenia ok. Here is a link for you and I notice Coniine is in hemlock too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coniine aah I really like the taste of it so verry sweet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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