Jander Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 Dear cpuk-forum, over the last two years Christian Klein, Martin Stoeckl, Carsten Paul and myself collected/selected some interesting new clones of Dionaea muscipula. This clones are as far as we know completely new in cultivation and we think they are somehow outstanding or unique. I would like to introduce them here the first time with posting some pictures. This post is just to introduce the new clones, we just do have small amounts for swap or sale. We would like to start with a clone that we named "Biohazard" (as a reference to the heavy mutation): This clone has strangely deformed traps on every leaf (even very small plants already show the typical shape). At first we were no sure whether the deformation is stabile or just a temporary phenomenon but now after a certain time period of cultivation we can confirm that this plants are stabile and can be multiplied. After growing it for a while now, we ca say that it is nearly stabile, but in some (rare) cases a plant fells back to just normal growth. The next Clone is called "Harmony" (because of its very simple but very regular and elegant shape). It has very regular elegant shaped traps with short teeth (late summer traps do have nearly no teeth at all), has a very compact groth and is completely green. In my opinion one of the best green clones that is in cultivation. The next clone is called "Rabbits teeth" because of its big and fat teeth that shows impressive similarity to the typical double teeth of rodents. In this plant always two or three teeth form a big, single rodent-like tooth, this plant ist completely green as well and is a very good grower. The next clone is called "Fuzzy Tooth" because of the crinkled traps. The plants get a nice coloration and the strange crinkled look is really stunning. Further i would like to introduce the two nice completely green fused tooth clones we selected. The two clones are very good and stable growers an grow in a nice compact rosette. The next clone is called "Monkey ass" due to its obvious similarity to .... The plant have extremely wide open traps what gives the inside of the traps a strong convex shape, the leaves have a nice contrast Last but not least the ugliest mutation (poor plant) we call "Qualzucht" Traps are turned around, heavily mutated and are often dysfunktional. We hope you enjoyed our presentation. Happy growing! Stephan Glied Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlytrapCare Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 I really like "Biohazard" and "Monkeys Ass." "Harmony" looks like a great clone too, but very similar in appearance to 'Coquillage' and "Green Wizard." All of them look interesting, but on some of them it appears that not all of the traps exhibit the particular characteristic that they were selected for. Do some of the plants only exhibit the characteristics seasonally like 'Fused Tooth' or "Trichterfalle?" In any case, they all look quite interesting and I think I'd enjoy growing the majority of them in my collection :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Green Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 Are these TC mutations, or are they grown from seed ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunc Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 These just get more and more ugly - although must admit to having a chuckle about the monkey's ass one! How many VFT clones are there now? What is the mutation rate and why so many now appearing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guillaume Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 Fuzzy tooth: a vft is already circulating under this name, it's comming from BCP. My link Qualzucht: 3 years ago I have found a vft who looks exactly the same, I have call this vft 'Fondue' and thsi plant is in many collection now. My link Please be more rigorous during your selection and look at what circulates already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobile Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 I don't like extreme VFT mutations but I like "Monkey ass". What is the mutation rate and why so many now appearing? I think that TC has increased the number of potential mutations. Also growers look out for any 'interesting' mutations and keep them. Qualzucht: 3 years ago I have found a vft who looks exactly the same, I have call this vft 'Fondue' and thsi plant is in many collection now. Presumably, if they are identical then they should share the same name, which would be the first one registered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Cornish Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 Some interesting plants you have there! Anyone fancy meeting at my house at the weekend and having a really close look at my Monkey ass? :0) Regards Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jander Posted May 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 Hi, thank you for your answers. Indeed there is some similarity between Harmony and coquillage but the plant is completely green even under intense lighting. I think it´s not that close to green wizard because the plant has a much mor compact growth and the traps do look somehow different. Green wizard apears like a green version of "short teeth" to me, while this one seems much like a complete green version of coquillage in growth an habbit. The "Qualzucht" is a strong (and as i have to commit ugly) mutation and has not much in common with fondue, although this one is quite strange too. Traps are mostly deformed i a way that they are twisted around back like you can see on the left side, perhaps i can post some more pics soon. All of the clones show the mutated traps all year round an dont have an anual dimorphism like some clones. Nearly all of the traps produced are mutated. With hundrets of clones there is of course some similarity because the number of possible differences is limited (length and form of teeth, colour, trap size etc.) so there will alway be some similarity between the clones. Regards Stephan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadly Weapon Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 Very nice ones! Can those traps of "Monkey Ass" close at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_muscipula Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 I think a better name for D. "monkey ass" is D. "bear trap" as bear traps are fairly wide open Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimscott Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 What Jeff said! These are distinguishable from most other cultivars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karl Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 Awesome clones !! I just see this topic . What's the difference between the 'Monkey Ass' and the 'Tellereisen' ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Klein Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 (edited) Karl :Tellereisen and Monkey Ass is the same Monkey Ass is my clone 8, but I think you got clone 7 so it is not the same . My favorite is Biohazard, what do you think, as You got it now ? D- Muscipula : First we wanted to name this Clone Tellereisen (what is the German word for Bear trap , but there is a other clone with this name going around, so it was not a good idea .Monkey ass was my wife's idea .Do not know why.... Chris Edited May 19, 2011 by Christian Klein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karl Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 Karl :Tellereisen and Monkey Ass is the same Monkey Ass is my clone 8, but I think you got clone 7 so it is not the same . My favorite is Biohazard, what do you think, as You got it now ? Christian : your 'Biohazard' is absolutely fabulous . It's the most exceptional VFT of all my collection ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobZ Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 View Postguillaume, on 16 May 2011 - 22:58 PM, said: Qualzucht: 3 years ago I have found a vft who looks exactly the same, I have call this vft 'Fondue' and thsi plant is in many collection now. Presumably, if they are identical then they should share the same name, which would be the first one registered? 'Fondue' was submitted by Guillaume Bily to ICPS for cultivar registration on 22 March 2011. The application was accepted and the official description is scheduled for publication in the September 2011 issue of Carnivorous Plant Newsletter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dchasselblad74 Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 I have never seen such interesting collection of mutations of VFTs Very Cool indeed!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jander Posted May 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 As there seem top be Problems with the name "Fuzzy tooth" what about the name "Neurotic" for this clone?? i just edited the name above. Bye Stephan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCarnifreak Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 I like the "Monkey Ass"! Can the traps close? In other words, is it able to catch insects? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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