will9 Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 I not know anything about polinate sarra,how can you be sure it selfed polination? How you know wath X wath ?Are there insekts in Europe that polinate the flower? 10 years ago i have 1 plant of sarracenia ,this came in flower but give no seeds ,after a few years i become more sarra and all flowers i have then came in seeds ,so i think there must be polinaters here ,there for i ask how i must do for beeing sure the seeds are what i set on the etiket! I never have cultivate seeds from my cactus because i never been sure i am the first one that polinate this,is it the same whit sarra and must you see there are no other flowers? Cheers Willy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexis Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 Bees pollinate the flowers. You need to do it manually with a paintbrush to be sure you will get seed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will9 Posted December 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 (edited) Bees pollinate the flowers.You need to do it manually with a paintbrush to be sure you will get seed. If bees polinate ,what must you do for be sure it s selfed? I never polinate any flower but every flower set seeds !! Many people sell seeds ,how can she know it s from that specific plant,i do notting and have seeds on every flower? Edited December 2, 2010 by will9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexis Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 They are specifically designed not to self-pollinate. Something must be pollinating them for them to set seed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will9 Posted December 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 They are specifically designed not to self-pollinate.Something must be pollinating them for them to set seed. I not polinate ,so i think bees did this,my question now is ,i have for excample 20 flava from different localitys if i have a seedpot from each whitout doing anything ,are this all selfed or are she polinate whit bees? In this case i can not sell anything whit a loc. because i not know and i can sell meaby only seeds from flava,i not sure for this becausse i have other sarra in the same bog,so meaby the are all crossings!So what do growers for be sure it s the riht plant,if i do notting for protection i not know if this is polinate by bees! I buy many seeds from loc .plants ,can i be sure this is riht? Cheers Willy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linuxman Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 I not polinate ,so i think bees did this,my question now is ,i have for excample 20 flava from different localitys if i have a seedpot from each whitout doing anything ,are this all selfed or are she polinate whit bees?In this case i can not sell anything whit a loc. because i not know and i can sell meaby only seeds from flava,i not sure for this becausse i have other sarra in the same bog,so meaby the are all crossings!So what do growers for be sure it s the riht plant,if i do notting for protection i not know if this is polinate by bees! I buy many seeds from loc .plants ,can i be sure this is riht? Cheers Willy I think what they do is transfer the pollen from one plant (or the same) to the stigma with a paintbrush as has already been mentioned. Then they cover the flower with something like a muslin bag to ensure no further pollination takes place. Also it's recommended to insert the paintbrush into the soil of the pot where the pollen came from so there's no confusion. Or make sure you clean the brush thoroughly. This way you know exactly what's pollinating what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will9 Posted December 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 (edited) I think what they do is transfer the pollen from one plant (or the same) to the stigma with a paintbrush as has already been mentioned. Then they cover the flower with something like a muslin bag to ensure no further pollination takes place. Also it's recommended to insert the paintbrush into the soil of the pot where the pollen came from so there's no confusion. Or make sure you clean the brush thoroughly. This way you know exactly what's pollinating what. Thanks this is exactly what i want to know! Now i can makes seeds to for sell next year! I hope everyone that sell seeds know this and do this before she have visit from a bee,but i think not only bees polinate this ,i have seen many flies on to the flower covered whit some pollen when in flower,i have seen not a single bee this year!!! cheers Willy Edited December 2, 2010 by will9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linuxman Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 Here's a good tutorial on Sarracenia pollination by Brooks Garcia which may be useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will9 Posted January 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 Here's a good tutorial on Sarracenia pollination by Brooks Garcia which may be useful. Hi Thanks ,this is what i looking for, Cheers Will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smudge Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 Bit late posting on this thread as its now 2012, but its exactly the info i've been looking for since Christmas. What a great site this is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linuxman Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 What I found last year was that any flower I didn't manually pollinate produced very few or no seeds at all. Maybe that European bees and insects aren't designed for pollinating sarracenia. So not sure if the flower bagging is really necessary. What are other peoples experiences? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenofeden Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 plants outside seem to set seeds fine, not sure if its insects or the wind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ada Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 My purps outside are pollinated by small bumble bees,(small orangey colourd ones)every year i get loads of seed this way. The plants in the greenhouse are different,unless i pollinate them myself i get nothing at all. ada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenofeden Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 My purps outside are pollinated by small bumble bees,(small orangey colourd ones) probably carders, my favourite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James O'Neill Posted March 3, 2012 Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 The purpurea in the bog near me definitely produce seed with insects' help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meizwang Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 Here in Northern California, we rarely have insects or other animals pollinate Sarracenia flowers. Honey bees, bumble bees, and other insects are frequently found in the flowers, but for some reason, they don't end up pollinating them-probably because of their size. However, if a hummingbird finds your plants, they're very effective at pollinating Sarracenia flowers. Interestingly, they only pollinated S. oreophila and a tub of flavas-perhaps nothing else was in bloom at the time. In the past 15 years, this has only happened once-outside of the hummingbird incident, my plants never produce seeds without hand pollination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James O'Neill Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 If only we had hummingbirds here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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