A lucky coincidence?

[Leo]

Following osmosis' last post ( fab plants as usual Dave btw) I was intrigued by the flava pic. Here is why:

I hasten to add, it was not just the colour. It was sold to me as a hybrid. I had long suspected it may have been mislabelled as I bought two and the other one looks, well, different:

What do folk think? The stems are a beautiful red colour.

[osmosis]

The top two photos (lovely plants BTW) are exactly what I have come to expect from the plants sold as flava from wistuba (I have 6 different clones)

There is a long running debate whether some or all of these clones are introgressed with N.ovata and some people would refer to them as flava x ovata, which is making further assumptions

The third photo looks nothing to do with flava at all

What hybrid were they sold as?

Edited August 4, 2010 by osmosis

[Leo]

What hybrid were they sold as?

Both are Wistuba clones sold as N. talangensis x tobaica. Incidentally I also have flava from Andreas as well but it is still small at ~20 cm in diameter so it will be a while before I can compare properly.

[SamInLondon]

There is a long running debate whether some or all of these clones are introgressed with N.ovata and some people would refer to them as flava x ovata, which is making further assumptions

Hello Dave. I wasn't aware of this debate; can you by any chance remember where it took place? I can't see much (or any) ovata in the pictures I've seen.