Sebulon Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 Hello, Best Carnivorusplants has opened a new website: Best carnivorousplants. Im very tempted to order something from them! Has anyone ordered plants from them? Were the plants healthy? Were you happy with the order? Something you didn't like? But my main question, if you have ordered plants, how much did the postage cost? They don't have a clear statement anywhere on their site. "The postage costs will be calculated by the weight of your order." So, if anyone has ordered from the, can you tell me how many plants did you order and how much the postage costed? Greetings, Jarkko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emiel Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 I received some of plants from them about a week ago. The plants arrived in a week after sending. They looked healthy on arrival (just a bit weakened by transport) and the portions were nice, I received clumps of up to 8 plants! (ordered just 1) The plants are still a bit acclimatizing so I can't tell yet if they'll make it all. They charge handling costs (€3), Airmail parcel to EU (€13) and Paypal charges (6.5%). If you need a Phytosanitary certificate you'll have to pay for that as well. The shipping costs were for 7 (clumps of) plants and some seeds. I'm quite happy with the size and the amount of the plants I received. Packaging was also very good with moist paper/ziploc-bags packed in plastic foam in a sturdy box. So my experience with BCP was very good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebulon Posted April 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 I received some of plants from them about a week ago.The plants arrived in a week after sending. They looked healthy on arrival (just a bit weakened by transport) and the portions were nice, I received clumps of up to 8 plants! (ordered just 1) The plants are still a bit acclimatizing so I can't tell yet if they'll make it all. They charge handling costs (€3), Airmail parcel to EU (€13) and Paypal charges (6.5%). If you need a Phytosanitary certificate you'll have to pay for that as well. The shipping costs were for 7 (clumps of) plants and some seeds. I'm quite happy with the size and the amount of the plants I received. Packaging was also very good with moist paper/ziploc-bags packed in plastic foam in a sturdy box. So my experience with BCP was very good! Oh, Im glad to hear that!The postage costs are a little high, but if the plants are good sized and healthy then why not! Thanks for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emiel Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 I forgot to mention I only ordered drosera species, so I'm not sure about portion sizes of other plant species, but I assume those will be good as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebulon Posted April 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 I forgot to mention I only ordered drosera species, so I'm not sure about portion sizes of other plant species, but I assume those will be good as well! Hmm... I wonder how large clums of Utricularia they sell. Especially some uncommon species that you rarely see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emiel Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 I don't know about the Utricularia clump size. But the rarer Drosera species I ordered (petiolaris complex) were also sent in nice big portions. I hope my information is of any help to you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob-Rah Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 For rare utrics, you'll probably get a small division. You'd call it a seedling if it were another sort of plant. It's enough, but nowhere near a potted plant size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebulon Posted April 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 For rare utrics, you'll probably get a small division. You'd call it a seedling if it were another sort of plant. It's enough, but nowhere near a potted plant size.Yeah, I think so. I wonder why webshops even sell so small plants, can't they just reproduce them en mass with tissue culture and then grow them to near adulthood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napraforgo Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 (edited) Paivaa! Nice to meet you online, Jarkko, I wonder why webshops even sell so small plants, can't they just reproduce them en mass with tissue culture and then grow them to near adulthood. In case of terrestrial Utrics, it is not a good idea to keep in vitro till adulthood. Remnant of agar must be washed out completely in order to avoid rotting when you put out in-vitro-cultured plantlet into ordinary substrate. It is virtually impossible in case of dense mat of stolons and leaves of Utrics. And, a clump about 1-2cm across is enough for a starter of terrestrial Utrics;under ideal condition, such a clump can propagate to occupy 4 inch pot in several months. Edited April 19, 2010 by Napraforgo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebulon Posted April 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Hello, nice to meet you too! Thanks a lot for this information. I don't know very much about tissue culture, so thanks a lot for the info. Maybe they actually have a reason for small plants. But then they should grow the plants to adulthood with normal methods. Greetings, Jarkko PS: I had a look at your growlist: you have a wonderful collection of utricularia, can you post pictures sometimes? Paivaa!Nice to meet you online, Jarkko, In case of terrestrial Utrics, it is no a good idea to keep in vitro till adulthood. Remnant of agar must be washed out completely in order to avoid rotting when you put in-vitro-cultured out into ordinary substrate. It is virtually impossible in case of dense mat of stolons and leaves of Utrics. And, a clump about 1-2cm across is enough for a starter of terrestrial Utrics;under ideal condition, such a clump can propagate to occupy 4 inch pot in several months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will9 Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Paivaa!Nice to meet you online, Jarkko, And, a clump about 1-2cm across is enough for a starter of terrestrial Utrics;under ideal condition, such a clump can propagate to occupy 4 inch pot in several months. If it s go so easy ,you have a lot off utrics i see on your grow list ,have you meaby plants for sales , Cheers Willy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebulon Posted April 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 If it s go so easy ,you have a lot off utrics i see on your grow list ,have you meaby plants for sales , Cheers Willy Totally agreed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will9 Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Totally agreed! by the way ,i order utrics in past from best carnivores ,the are of good size and healty plants.I not no for the plants you looking for ,for me the are to expensif. There must be a reasson why growers ask such prizes ,i think epiphytic utrics are not easy to grow Napraforgo have a few plants that you are looking for ,meaby he can tell of these plants are easy or not, cheers Willy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifurita Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 I made an order with them last year(before the new webshop opened) and overall, it was a great experience. Here's the low-down: The plants came mostly healthy, but some were weakened, which is fair considering my location. There were some plants which came either near death or DOA, but all in all, Kamil(the guy running the shop) was very nice about it and offered to replace/substitute the plants with no fuss at all. Awesome, considering I've come across nurseries that refuse any sort of replacement or others which insist on lots and lots of proof, then argue with you. The portion size and general health of the plants was also very, very good. One of the plants I got from them was a N. hamata and considering the price paid, the plant was HUGE as compared to the tiny ones from other nurseries like Wistuba or BE. Others like Pings had multiple plants per portion too. For some of the plants, all my previous attempts to grow them failed as they died before settling down...but the ones from BCPS are not just alive now, they're also still healthy! Overall, a very good experience! There is one thing I don't really like, but its in no way the fault of BCPS. Being where I am, the exchange rate is painful. Still, for that kind of quality, worth paying for. I do have another order which has been pending since December, which hasn't shipped due to winter conditions, but I'll have more to say once that comes in...who knows when now thanks to that pesky ash cloud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebulon Posted April 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 I made an order with them last year(before the new webshop opened) and overall, it was a great experience. Here's the low-down: The plants came mostly healthy, but some were weakened, which is fair considering my location. There were some plants which came either near death or DOA, but all in all, Kamil(the guy running the shop) was very nice about it and offered to replace/substitute the plants with no fuss at all. Awesome, considering I've come across nurseries that refuse any sort of replacement or others which insist on lots and lots of proof, then argue with you. The portion size and general health of the plants was also very, very good. One of the plants I got from them was a N. hamata and considering the price paid, the plant was HUGE as compared to the tiny ones from other nurseries like Wistuba or BE. Others like Pings had multiple plants per portion too. For some of the plants, all my previous attempts to grow them failed as they died before settling down...but the ones from BCPS are not just alive now, they're also still healthy! Overall, a very good experience! There is one thing I don't really like, but its in no way the fault of BCPS. Being where I am, the exchange rate is painful. Still, for that kind of quality, worth paying for. I do have another order which has been pending since December, which hasn't shipped due to winter conditions, but I'll have more to say once that comes in...who knows when now thanks to that pesky ash cloud. Sounds good. Except for that ashcloud part. I wonder when Andy's pings arrive to my place, maybe they get caught by the ashcloud too. Did you get any bonus plants? Something non capensis. Tell me when your latest order arrives, it reads in they're site: 12.04.2010 - All announced orders was sent on 09-04-2010 and 12-04-2010. I want to hear your experiences about that too. I wonder how high the postage would be if I ordered only seeds. Better e-mail them and ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toimeme Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 i bought some plants from bcp, always arrived healthy and well packaged, no problem with this shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest speeddy31 Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 (edited) I too was ordered home right product and packaging treatment. I highly recommend this producer. Edited April 19, 2010 by speeddy31 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebulon Posted April 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Wow, so much positive feedback. I get it, they are a good place to order CP's from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifurita Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Sounds good. Except for that ashcloud part. I wonder when Andy's pings arrive to my place, maybe they get caught by the ashcloud too. Did you get any bonus plants? Something non capensis. Tell me when your latest order arrives, it reads in they're site: 12.04.2010 - All announced orders was sent on 09-04-2010 and 12-04-2010. I want to hear your experiences about that too. I wonder how high the postage would be if I ordered only seeds. Better e-mail them and ask. Yeah and latest news is that the ashcloud has strengthened. Not good. Gah. Though they say on the site that they're still shipping plants so perhaps they're not affected. I'm guessing that my order may not have been sent yet though. It was fairly large(an order from various people in my school's CP club) and it may be taking time to get all the plants ready. Plus, it sounds like they're swamped under a backlog of orders, so perhaps they're getting the smaller ones out of the way first or something. I've not actually gotten the email with info like tracking numbers, so till I get that, I'm not getting my hopes up...though if it goes into May without it being sent...well... I have ordered only seed before and the shipping was as low as sending a letter if I'm not wrong. As for bonus plants, the new site has some plants marked with an *. You can choose any of the marked plants as a bonus plant depending on its value and the value of your order. While not exactly rare, getting stuff like U. endresii, N. ventricosa x rhombicaulis or even GA3 as part of your bonus is, at least for me, a refreshing change from yeah, the usual capensis. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebulon Posted April 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 I sent him an e-mail, and he answered me pretty quickly, that only seeds orders have a postage cost of 6 euro. That's pretty huge for a letter. Kind people from europe have sent me plants with much smaller postage, even though they were in a package! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifurita Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 Did you get any bonus plants? Something non capensis. Tell me when your latest order arrives, it reads in they're site: 12.04.2010 - All announced orders was sent on 09-04-2010 and 12-04-2010. I want to hear your experiences about that too. Its a bit late since I was busy with exams and end-of-term stuff, but just thought I should follow up on this. Bonus plants - Besides the bonus plants that were chosen on the website, for a number of the plants(generally the Drosera and Pinguicula) ordered, one portion contained between 2-6 plants. This includes even 2-3 of the less common or more expensive plants. All the guys in my school's CP club who participated in the order were totally overjoyed. The order arrived quite some time back, in fact it arrived 3-4 days after it was shipped, which I have to say was very, very quick. I've had other nurseries charge more for shipping and the packages take a week or more to come in. A very good experience overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamInLondon Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 It's good to know there's another reliable vendor out there. Just one question: is there anywhere on the website that tells you how big the sizes actually are? What, for instance, does a 'small' nep actually measure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mags Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 It's good to know there's another reliable vendor out there. Just one question: is there anywhere on the website that tells you how big the sizes actually are? What, for instance, does a 'small' nep actually measure? Nope not really... just a few pics of typical plants sent out on this page: http://www.bestcarnivorousplants.net/index...read-this-first I bought the medium N. hamata off him a few weeks back and it was over 11cm leaf tip to leaf tip, not bad as far as hamatas go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifurita Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 The sizes of the neps aren't stated beyond the small, medium and large on the site. Based on the sizes of the neps which came in for this and a previous order, the sizes are quite decent and to be honest, larger than what a number of other nurseries consider to be small, medium and large. The only nep which was really small(3cm from tip to tip) contained 2 plants in that portion. Also, expect the lowland neps to be slightly smaller in size than the highland ones. That seems to be the trend among those ordered on my end at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will9 Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 (edited) I can not speak for the nephentes but i order last month again to Best carnivorousplants,i order for example drosera arcturi ,now i have 4 pots arcturi whit 5 plants pro pot,plants are all medium size for this kind,also drosera vilosa ,i received 12 plants ,not big but 12! unbelievable but treu,i can only say this is not the last order i do there, cheers Willy I lying ,i have see howmatch ,the are even more arcturi and vilosa Edited June 2, 2010 by will9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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