mobile Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 After seeing a few posts about various brands of peat recently, I emailed Scotts to inquire about their Shamrock Irish moss peat product and received the following reply: 'Shamrock Irish moss peat in bales is pure peat taken straight from the peat bog, screened and packed.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manders Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 Have been using it for years, unfortunately its getting hard to find around here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobile Posted November 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 Have been using it for years, unfortunately its getting hard to find around here. One of my local hardware stores had two large pallets of Shamrock and Westlands peat last time I visited. I bought three bales of Shamrock. Hopefully everyone will have been buying the Westland so there will still be some nice Shamrock peat left next time I visit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 I've been using Shamrock for years, seems to be one of the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky Utrici Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Does anyone know where I can get Shamrock peat in or around Bristol/Bath. Most places seem to stock Westland, which I had been using, I recently got 600l of Arthur Bowyers that says it's ok for carnivorous plants, but early days on this. I don't think the Westland has had adverse effects but now I'm worried and would like to get Shamrock even if I have to pay for delivery. Tricky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan F. Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 I have had Arthur Bowyers for a long time and it is OK for carnivorous plants,but now I can not get hold of the stuff. Do NOT use Westland peat moss as I lost about 10 vft this summer with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexis Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Bad luck. My VFTs were suffering, but they were all rinsed and repotted in Shamrock. They all turned out fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan F. Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 will this peat be OK for cps J. Arthur Bower's Moss Peat? as I have been having J. Arthur Bower's garden peat for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexis Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Looks spot on. 100% sphagnum peat moss is what you want to see! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 This is the latest brand I tried, its seems to be full of non peat stuff though, spending ages taking all the crap out. Its easily obtainable for me but I wouldnt buy it again for a while. Hopefuly I've just had a bad batch but quality seems pretty poor to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexis Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 This subject is a minefield! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan F. Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 I have had Westland peat moss about 300L of the stuff and all plants wot was in it rotted off and I lost all the plants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan F. Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 wot about this peat, gem garden peat made with sphagnum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunc Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 Agree with the views above Used "Shamrock" mainly over the last 30 years with very little problems. Could not find any a few times and what ever else I tried has just not been as good!! Either full of bits of wood and paper waste, or, like other with 'Westland' I've ended up having to re-pot everything due to heavy losses The only info I've been able to find is that some mediums (inc peat) MAY contain wetting agents. This could explain the rapid water-logging and plant rotting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan F. Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 Went to garden center to day and ask about Westland peat moss and the man at the shop said where is not a wetting agent in the peat moss and its 100% Irish sphagnum peat moss and he has sold the moss for over 40 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 Well whichever way you look at it there's definitely been some dodgy batches of westland. As for Gem I've heard of it but never seen any for sale near me so cant help you on that one - if its 100% spahgnum moss peat with nothing added then it should be ok although its fair to say after the trouble I've had with westland and arthur j bowers you dont really know until you try it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobile Posted November 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 Went to garden center to day and ask about Westland peat moss and the man at the shop said where is not a wetting agent in the peat moss and its 100% Irish sphagnum peat moss and he has sold the moss for over 40 years. I think I'm more inclined to believe the email response in the following post: http://www.cpukforum.com/forum/index.php?s...st&p=255837 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexis Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 It was probably fine for 39 of those years! I used to use it with no problems, until this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dode Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 Lucky enough to find 300l of shamrock peat locally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexis Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 This is the latest brand I tried, its seems to be full of non peat stuff though, spending ages taking all the crap out. Its easily obtainable for me but I wouldnt buy it again for a while. Hopefuly I've just had a bad batch but quality seems pretty poor to me. Yeah, my local garden centre had Arthur Bowers instead of Shamrock at the weekend. Seems to have a few twigs in it, but seems fine. Packaging emphasises that nothing extra is added at all and that it is 100% moss peat. No idea why such a big company as Westland contaminates their product with filler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manders Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 All kinds of stuff ends up in peat bogs, sedges, trees, dead animals, leaves, insects etc, not just spaghnum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 My bags of Shamrock this year had loads of bits of assorted chewed up plastics in amongst the peat, after a while I started putting them all in an empty pot, which ended up full. Some were bits of pots and others were black plastic sheeting, one of the pieces was part of a plants label, I just hope the contents of the pots didn't go in with the rest... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimsPlants Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 My bags of Shamrock this year had loads of bits of assorted chewed up plastics in amongst the peat, after a while I started putting them all in an empty pot, which ended up full. Some were bits of pots and others were black plastic sheeting, one of the pieces was part of a plants label, I just hope the contents of the pots didn't go in with the rest... yes, ive just had a bad batch of shamrock. Lots of bits and lumps. Even some really weired looking lumps of grey clay like material. Had to get the sieve out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexis Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Wird. Last two batches I've had have been perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamInLondon Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 All this talk of dodgy peat is making me nervous. I don't suppose anyone has used Wilko's? Got a few plants in it that aren't doing great, so am wondering whether to repot just in case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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