Jonathan F. Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 hi all is this irish moss peat ok for all cps here are some pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 Yep - westland irish moss peat is ok to use. I've just got through 2 bags of the stuff :) Heather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexis Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 It's fine, but I had a dodgy batch last year. Quickly became covered in mould and the VFTs didn't like it at all. It's been fine in the past, but I avoid Westland now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 You too Alexis - I seem to have had an increase in mould and green slime on the surface this year too - one bag was fine but the 2nd one isnt as good. The slime/mould isnt harming the plants and apart from that seems fine to me, just doesnt look very nice . I'm onto Arthur J Bowers next though so fingers crossed for less slime/mould with this one.... Heather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan F. Posted May 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 i have add Arthur J Bowers for the last 2 years but i got the the soil went hard after about 6 mouths. so seen this in a garden centre last weekend for a £5 for 100 liter bags as all the garden centre aroud me has stoped selling cps and cps conpost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 I cant find any peat in garden centres near me and have had to order it online so I'm down to getting whatever I can find and there's not a great deal of choice online!! Hope my batch of Arthur J doesnt go hard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 I started using Arthur J Bowers and Clover for the first time this year and on both I've started getting mould but no slime yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexis Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 I'm on Shamrock now. I've used it in the past no problem. but I remember Mike wasn't happy with a batch of his a while back. I think it's the same with all the brands. Some batches will inevitably be from poorer parts of the bog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan F. Posted July 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 HELP, All my vft what are in irish moss peat what I was told was ok are all now rotting why is this?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ada Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 Too wet? natural die back? photos would be a great help,otherwise we're just guessing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobile Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 Not pure sphagnum moss peat? Too wet? Too humid? Fungal infection? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan F. Posted July 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 Thay are in westland irish moss peat and perlite mix 3/1, And about 1" of water like all my other vft. I will post photos later but the vft was of ebay about 4 weeks ago and the two I go is rotting off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan F. Posted July 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 They was sold to me as Adult plants of ebay. And they have good roots system as well they stand in 1" of water in full sun in the greenhouse all day. Dionaea muscipula Green Dragon Dionaea muscipula Red Pirahna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexis Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 Same thing happened to my VFTs after I repotted them all in Westland. I repotted them in Shamrock, and they have now recovered but are still a few weeks behind where I would expect them to be. Westland seems to be a load of crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 I've used a lot of Westland last year and it was ok apart from the mould slime issue above - if you think the peat is the issue then repot them, perhaps you've had a bad batch of it. If they are rotting then whatever the problem is you'll need to unpot, remove the rotten section (if it hasnt spread all the way through) and re-pot and better to keep these ones drier than normal (dont stand in water permanently - keep just damp). They are quite difficult to save once they start rotting though but you might get lucky.... Is it just these 2 that you have potted in the weatland peat? Heather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petesredtraps Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 It may seem an exspensive option what I suggest here,but if the peat moss that's around is potentialy dodgy,what about supersphag/perlite mixes for our plants? Surely that would be safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Anyone having trouble with Sarracenias being too wet/showing signs of rot too ? This thread has hit the nail on the head with the problem I'm having with some of my VFT and newly purchased, therefore newly repotted, sarras..... ...they are all potted in Westland peat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexis Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Not unheard of for peat to contain a wetting agent. I wonder if that's the reason? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan F. Posted July 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 I have potted about five vft that has gone like this but i also got 3 more in the same soil but 50/50 not 3/1 peat/perlite. Witch mite be the problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobile Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 (edited) I've been struggling with VFTs for years. I receive good plants and within a few weeks of potting they start to rot. I always put it down to my local conditions somehow effecting them. Earlier this year I started an experiment with growing a VFT in rockwool usind a DWC hydroponics setup and that plant is doing well. I have also purchased a VFT which I have potted in a different brand of peat to my usual and that is doing well to. Obviously, given the above I'm starting to suspect that it is the peat that I have been using that is causing the problem. I have done a side by side comparison between the old and new peat and I notice that the old appears to be quite a bit darker, wetter and denser. In addition, when flooded quite a lot of particles in the new peat float to the surface but far less with the old peat. My old peat is from a local bog, whereas the new is a well known national brand. I have a few plants growing in the old peat, including Cephalotus, Utricularia and Heliamphora and they seem to grow ok in it but VFTs don't seem to like it. Edited July 28, 2009 by mobile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyoliver Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 I use 1:1 peat to perlite for my VFTs and they seem ok (touch wood). I use Westland peat but with the 1:1 mix I've had no rotting issues and they even stand in water. Mobile have you tried Pings in a hydro system yet? Just wondering if they would be any good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobile Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Mobile have you tried Pings in a hydro system yet? Just wondering if they would be any good. Not yet, but I have a garden centre ping growing very well in lawn moss. It has not flowered yet though so I can't identify what Ping it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyoliver Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Not yet, but I have a garden centre ping growing very well in lawn moss. It has not flowered yet though so I can't identify what Ping it is. Lawn moss. That's interesting I've got losts of that!!! :-) I was wondering coz they only have shallow roots and like the air flow so seems like an idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobile Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 (edited) ...I was wondering coz they only have shallow roots and like the air flow so seems like an idea. I suspect that quite a few Mexican Pings are actually grown in a form of hydroponics anyway as they are often cultivated in inorganic materials such as Seramis, vermiculite and perlite. Hydroculture, which is a subset of hydroponics (passive hydroponics), is basically growing a plant in inorganic materials with a water reservoir. I have a Cephalotus growing in rockwool in effectively a passive hydroponic setup. It is only a very small plant but it is putting out new juvenile pitchers. I even use hydroponics nutrient solution on it... shock, horror Edited July 28, 2009 by mobile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 I wonder if we've got to the root of your problems with vfts Carl, I'd avoid putting any in the old style peat and see how the recent one goes in the new stuff! Glad to hear that your latest one is doing well though, and the one in the rockwool too Heather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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