jimfoxy Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 (edited) I received this plant from Jill Whitewood who got it from Nepenti in Poland and had it labelled as P. jaumavensis x cyclosecta: I received this different plant from Julio Alberto who suggests it might be P. 'Florian' (see http://www.cpukforum.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=22185): Both plants have put up flower stalks at the same time (they are kept in same conditions). Both rosettes and flowers look very similar (the brightness difference above is just due to different lighting). The yellow throat patch is raised, as in P. debbertiana. Both have the spur marking shown in: http://www.gluch.info/Haupttext_Pingu57_1.htm#florian1 P. 'Florian' is Oliver Gluch's hybrid of P. debbertiana x jaumavensis. It is defined here: http://www.carnivorousplants.org/cpn/Speci...33n1p19_22.html I am thinking that both may well be P. 'Florian'. Any views? Edited March 6, 2009 by jimfoxy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Weinberger Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 Hello Jim! Well you received plant from Nepenti is no jaumavensis x cyclosecta like it was labeled. Reasons are for me the unround flower leaves, what is typical for the plant. Also the veines don´t look as the label. http://www.bestcarnivorousplants.org/fotog...sr120-2049.html I think what you have are two different clones of a 'Florian'. Both show the typica yellow "pom pom". The first plant doesn´t show this so much like the second but for two different plants this variety is normal I think. Cheers Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimfoxy Posted March 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 Hi Chris. Thanks for your comments. I'm not even sure that they are different clones. The photos I posted were not a fair comparison. Here are two more; one from each plant: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Weinberger Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 Hey Jim! From that point of view they look very similar and I´m quite sure that they are ´Florian´. Cheers Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Clemens Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 Here's a link to the Pinguicula 'Florian' cultivar description and photo standard: Cultivar description and standard. Though the angle is not as acute as described for the cultivar, the central lower corolla lobe is still raised above the two on either side. This might just be due to cultural differences. If the plant also matches the cultivar description, I would certainly consider them to be Pinguicula 'Florian'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimfoxy Posted March 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 Thanks, guys. It does match the cultivar description in all other ways. I shall make the appropriate name change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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