Laurent T Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Hi, I saw some photos of this plant at the site of Bob Ziemer. Can someone give me some more information about S. purpurea ssp. venosa var. burkii f. luteola ? Is it rare in cultivation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aidan Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 In Europe at least, the plant is still comparatively rare in cultivation and unless someone is raising plants from seed, I think Bob Hanrahan's clone is the only one in circulation. It's not the fastest growing of plants in the world either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RL7836 Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 In Europe at least, the plant is still comparatively rare in cultivation and unless someone is raising plants from seed, I think Bob Hanrahan's clone is the only one in circulation. I received some seedlings last year from a friend so I suspect that there are some out there (I don't think they were t/c). However, it does seem fairly difficult to find...It's not the fastest growing of plants in the world either. Agreed. Although my plants regularly put out new pitchers this summer, the plants did not increase in size very much at all. Mike Howlett offered a 3" plant (IIRC) in the NASC auction earlier this year. It fetched $150 USD (not bad!). For some more details on the plant's history, here's a page from CPN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallsg7 Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Dont know about comparitively rare...it is extremely rare in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sheila Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Comparatively - in a relative manner; by comparison to something else; So Aidans statement is absolutely correct. Compared to other plants of the species it is rare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted November 11, 2007 Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 (edited) * Edited November 13, 2007 by alexa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike King Posted November 11, 2007 Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 As far as I know, there are fewer than 20 luteola plants in Europe. It is painfully slow to increase, but there are some seedlings now in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ada Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 Like this, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike King Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 Like this, Hi Adrian, Nearly! But it is not an f. luteola as you have the typical venosa there as opposed to var. burkii. The plant you have there even rarer than the luteola! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexis Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 Yep - I didn't even know that plant existed until 3 weeks ago! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ada Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 (edited) Mike,the lid shape gives it away,doesn't it? Myself,Steve T and i think it was John J errard who discussed this at your open day.It grows faster than the f.luteola,my other seedling although a lot smaller is growing faster than normal red clones. ada Edited November 13, 2007 by ada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Snocken Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 (edited) Or like these... ..although not in the UK. Edited November 13, 2007 by Howard Snocken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ada Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 SNAP! I was first to say snap Howard.Does that mean i've won yours? ada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike King Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Hi Howard, It is already here in the UK http://www.cpukforum.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=23831 Its lurking next to the luteola. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Snocken Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 SNAP! I was first to say snap Howard.Does that mean i've won yours?ada Ah, but mine are 'luteola . Does that mean I win yours by penalty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexis Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 Almost looks like an anthcyanin free var. montana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurent T Posted November 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 So there are 3 anthcyanin free S. purpurea species? -S. purpurea subsp. purpurea f. heterophylla -S. purpurea subsp. venosa (anthcyanin free) -S. purpurea subsp. venosa var burkii f. luteola It are nice plants! Mike, you don't have seeds of a luteola available for sell? I hope that the plant come available soon as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ada Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 Laurent,you will have to join the queue like the rest of us.Mike says its very slow to divide. ada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurent T Posted November 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 OK :) , I join the queue! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike King Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 So there are 3 anthcyanin free S. purpurea species?-S. purpurea subsp. purpurea f. heterophylla -S. purpurea subsp. venosa (anthcyanin free) -S. purpurea subsp. venosa var burkii f. luteola It are nice plants! Mike, you don't have seeds of a luteola available for sell? I hope that the plant come available soon as possible. Hi Laurent, Rather tahn 'self' the plant, I have crossed it with a standard burkii which is my most vigorous clone. I will then cross these plants once they mature and lets see what happens! You are correct regarding the list above, there are 3.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcelvW Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Hi, I just wanted to know how rare this species still is. How many people do grow this clone in Europe? Are there any plants from seeds yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RL7836 Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 As far as I know, there are fewer than 20 luteola plants in Europe. It is painfully slow to increase, but there are some seedlings now in the UK. While mine have been truly glacial with their growth (see pic below), two friends have plants that have a much more normal growth pattern (one is blooming this year).I received 3 small seedlings early in 2007. Each year, the plants regularly add pitchers but show only a small increase in size. Since this is my 3rd summer with them, I was expecting them to be much larger. Here's a pic I took a few days ago of my largest 'seedling'... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcelvW Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Hi Ron, Very nice seedling. I did read Mike's post, but it is from 2007, that's why I asked it again. It is two years later now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altair Posted September 20, 2009 Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 I'm also curious about this crossing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miroslav Srba Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Antho-free forms are just single-gene recesive mutation. So the second generetion of the crossing that Mike mentioned will contain approximatly 25% of luteolas. I have just cropped about 1000 seeds from 3 plants... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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