mono Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Went for a hike up a little mountain in one of our flower reserves and came across a treat. Roridula gorgonias, ok not strickly a carnivorous plant but worth a glance plus they were in full flower. Came across other Drosera species too. Hopefully I have lablelled them correctly. View from top of mountain (not sure of its name ) but the CP's were growing all along the cooler wet slopes. Drosera glabripes (my local guide and CP enthusiast said he once followed a D. glabripes root when they were constructing a pathway and it went further than 2meters!) Drosera alicea Drosera hilaris Drosera cistiflora Roridula gorgonias (not the dentata I thought it was) (they were standing 1.5m or so. What a treat as I had never before seen them) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Spence Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Fantastic! Actually it is Roridula gorgonias The Drosera are all named correctly. I love the D. hilaris. Just wish that my tiny plants would decide to grow. Just wondering, what are the average temps for that region at this time of year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blt00123 Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Hi great pics, my heart stopped for a few seconds at drosera hilaris sight it really looks so healthy and dewy!!!! Congrats!! ciao AndreaS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Cornish Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Fantastic habitat shots. Thanks for sharing. Regards Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obregon562 Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 awsome. plain and simple. just awsome! once i get enough money (assuming i do ) i hope to go to different cp sites...hopefully! great shots, and thanks for sharing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenofeden Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Fabulous! I once followed a Drosera glabripes root as well but gave up after a couple of feet.... they go deep! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Fleischmann Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Hello Mono, Very nice photographs! Do you have been to the Fernkloof Nature Reserve, near the town of Hermanus? That view looked so familiar to me ;) I would call that D. aliciae a D. curviscapa. D. curviscapa has petioles not covered by tentacles, and it's a plant of dry habitats, whereas D. aliciae prefers to grow in very wet soils or seepages. And flowers of D. aliciae and D. curviscapa are totally different. I cannot understand how some people can lump those 2 species together ;). All the best, Andreas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Nice! I'm in the Cape in November for just under a month. I really must make an effort to look for CPs - the trip is primarily a birding one. Any sites especially worthwhile? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepenthesmatt Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 very nice pics!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mono Posted July 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 D. aliciae (D. curviscapa) still learning. Never heard of this one before Andreas, its not on my SA species list. I will have to look it up. However that D aliciae was growing in very wet areas. usually seepages off the hillsides. I was standing in shallow puddles to take the pic. Yip Fernkloof is a fantastic reserve to see CPS it is close to that place, Near Hermanus. Sean Average temperatures are low night temp of anything between 2-8degree celcius to average day temperatures of about 22degrees with a few warmer days inbetween. the Roridula is definately dentata though. Double checked it with the reserve botanists. What would make it the other? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Spence Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Thanks for the info on temperature variations. I didn't realise that it reached as high as the low 20's at the moment. The reason I asked was to compare to my own conditions. I'm afraid that I'll have to disagree with the botanist. The plants are definitely R. gorgonias. The leaves of R. gorgonias are simple and do not fork (Andreas will have a better botanical description of this ). Those of R. dentata are more complex, pinnate may be a way to describe them :?: . Once again, Andreas will provide a better botanical explanation than I. Here's a link to an example of the leaf form of R. dentata http://www.drosophyllum.com/Bilder/roridula_d01.jpg and one of R. gorgonias http://fernkloof.com/species.mv?166 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mono Posted July 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Righto thanks for that! As I said still learning. ok I will change the name to the correct one!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenofeden Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Nice! I'm in the Cape in November for just under a month. I really must make an effort to look for CPs - the trip is primarily a birding one. Any sites especially worthwhile? Fernkloof and Table Mountain (the top) for starters... and a primarily bird trip, to one of the richest botanical regions in the world, shame on you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Fleischmann Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Hello, Sean, I could not have described the leaves of both Roridula species better than you did! ;) Both species are well separated both ecologically and by distribution: R. gorgonias is only known from 2 locations on costal mountains in the Hermanus area (Fernkloof NR and Palmietriver NR), where it grows in very wet conditions in seeps in shruby fynbosh vegetation. R. dentata has a much wider distribution, it's growing on the mountain plateaus of Tulbagh, Ceres and Clanwilliam district. There, it's growing on dry, sandy ground in dry poor fynbosh vegetation. Drosera curviscapa is regarded to be conspecific with D. aliciae by some peolpe, as they do with D. admirabilis and D. cuneifolia. In my opinion, these 4 species are all well separated from each other, both by a set of morphological characters as well as by their habitat preferences. In case you still refer to Obermeyer's monograph of Droseraceae in Flora of Southern Africa: Mrs. Obermeyer did not have any idea about Drosera!! She made such a mess in her treatment! She even thought that D. slackii was the same as D. aliciae!! I'm writing the chapter Droseraceae for the Flora of the Eastern Cape project, which will be printed in 2009. Additionally, I have designed a new key for all Drosera species of southern Africa, which was a lot of work. I still want to approve it a little bit, but then we will finally have a good identification key to the 20 species of Drosera growing in the Cape area, plus the 6 additional species of the eastern Cape region. All the best, Andreas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radmegan Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Excellent! Love to see CPs in habitat. Well done :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mono Posted July 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Fantastic Andreas. This is a new adventure for me and a good key will come in handy! I am using a key I got off one of the american CP sites, but I am no botanist, so half does not make sense unless I see pictures. I am a horticulturist working on fynbos with an interest in starting a complete SA carnivorous plant collection. I just find they all look so similar. Learning curve but looking forward to it. You are all so much help. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Spence Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 I just find they all look so similar. After a while they won't a complete SA carnivorous plant collection. We share the same dream. You are in a little better situation to achieve it than I am though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Rohrbacher Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Ooooooh, beautiful Drosera Very thanks!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Nijman Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Hi, I have been to that Fernkloof reserve to and I have seen Roridula gorgonias there on a wet spot. Maybe it is the same place I have seen them. And also Droseras. Does that Roridula flower all the year? I have seen it into flower in your summer in Februari. Regards, Alexander Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepenthesmatt Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Wow nice sundews!!! love them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khelljuhg Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Wonderful photos! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Fantastic trip and photos!! Thanks Mono!! Iggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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