mono Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Hi all, I have tried identifying these through the key but alas I am still not sure. I would appreciate any help. They are all South Western cape species. Any thoughts. added links to more pics as did not want to overload the system The following stands approx 45mm high at the moment leaves: 20mm full length, trap section: 10mm X2mm only thing extra I noted was the transparent bract. http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n198/monotwine/D-4.jpg http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n198/monotwine/D-3.jpg approx 15mm high but forms large matting of old leaves leaves: 10mmX5mm http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n198/mo.../Picture013.jpg http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n198/mo.../Picture016.jpg I think this one is D. trinerva. Only has a single white flower. Flowering nov. leaf tappers from 2mm - 4mm and is 10mm long http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n198/mo.../Picture008.jpg Leaf tappers from 1mm to 5mm and is 20mm long sent up flowering stalks in Sept, but they died back before developing so I am not sure on flower colour. http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n198/monotwine/D-1.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christerb Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Nice plants. I would think they are D. capensis, D. admirabilis, D. trinervia (like you write), and finally D. cuneifolia. I am by all means no expert, so I could be wrong. Regards, Christer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Spence Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 I agree completely with Christer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mono Posted December 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Thanks for that, That top one grows nothing like my other D.capensis (I have various forms). It is a mature plant at that height just keeps going up and is very slender / daintly compared to other capensis which are far more robust and thicker. That first ones "stem" is about 0.5mm thick or less whereas my capensis has on that is at least 5mm thick. the stem also leans to the side even though it has full sunlight whereas the D. capensis growing along side it grows straight up. it went dormant and is now growing over summer months? I was thinking it may be a D. glabripes??? this plant is over 3yrs old. But I must admit it looks much like the capensis seedlings do. D. admirabilis is that a South African species? it is not listed in my key. I am also confused about the D. cuneifolia or D. pauciflora. The flowering time of this last one coincides with the D. pauciflora...? This is so confusing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Spence Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 The first is definitely not D. glabripes, it appears to be simply a small growing form of D. capensis. D. admirabilis is considered by some to be merely small form of D. cuneifolia. I don't agree with this and believe that it should be considered a distinct taxa. The final one appears to be the large growing form of D. cuneifolia. The form from Silvermine is very similar to this one. Even at its current small size it is quite easy to distinguish from D. pauciflora which has longer, thinner leaves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mono Posted December 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 ok thanks, Out of interest what makes it not a D. glabripes? I am useless at all the taxanomical jargon in the key, but by looking at sizes etc it fitted in that group. It will be useful for later identification. is it the bract? more rounded leaves? Must admit as D. capensis it is a rather dissapointing form and rather a finicky grower. All the others are so much more showy. this particular plant form came from Barrydale. Ok I could go on the small form of cuneifolia / admiralibis that makes sense And yes then the silvermine form is similar. This one was collected on the hills above simons town so in same area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christerb Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Hi again, With D. glabripes, think D. madagascariensis but with a hairy stem. While D. capensis can form a stem it is usually with a"dead" stem and a living rosette on top. Good to hear you keep the location data on your plants, often this is lost in D. capensis (and others species) when it comes to cultivated plants. Iggy posted photos of D. glabripes recently on the forum. http://www.cpukforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17953 Regards, Christer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mono Posted December 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 ok I see what you mean. Boy it does help if you have a picture and not just words on a page. Thanks again for all the help. I never found any reference to hairs in the botanical descriptions and other pics don't show it as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christerb Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 Hi, I don't have access to any botanical descriptions except Obermeyer's Flora of Southern Africa, which is on-line (link below). While it doesn't mention any hairs either, I assume the correct botanical term is stipules. http://www.omnisterra.com/botany/cp/pictur...rosera/0075.htm Regards, Christer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mono Posted December 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 yes that is the one. ok now it is starting to make sense. Still the strangest little D. capensis i have come across. Again thanks for the patient answers. Monique Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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