Guest Home Ownage Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 hey are there nepenthes that are very difficult to root with ? just wondering with grafting nepenthes if i take a cutting of n. rajah and graft it onto a stock n.redleopard, wouold the growing point of the rajah produce rajah pitchers? would growth rate be altered any way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aidan Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 I've separated your post from the FAQ Air-Layering thread and made it into a new thread in the Nepenthes forum. Grafting of Nepenthes is possible though it doesn't appear to be common practice. wouold the growing point of the rajah produce rajah pitchers? Yes, if the graft were successful. would growth rate be altered any way? Perhaps, though "Red Leopard" may not be a suitable stock plant for N. rajah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Home Ownage Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 why not? well what plants would be suitable. if connected to red leopard would the stem conjoin together? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas.Brinkley Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 The trouble with nepenthes grafting is that their stem structure is that of a typical monocot. This means that the vascular bundles of the plant are scattered randomnly{more or less} through the stem and not in rings like dicots. The problem with this structure is that it makes grafting very difficult! To take a successful graft you need to basically give the grafted tip of the plant a source of water and the roots on the bottom of the graft a supply of the sugars produced by photosynthesis in the leaves. This requires you to pretty closely match up the vascular bundles in the stem so that they can heal together and continue to flow relatively uninterupted. As the vascular bundles of nepenthes{like most creepers} are randomnly scattered in the stem you cant really line them up and effect an uninterupted flow of water/foods. Without it the new graft will die from lack of water while the roots languish from lack of the sugars from the leaves! If you could match it all up{which is possible} then nepenthes grafts would work, thats difficlt though so its not often attempted! Grafting is best left for plants that produce wood! Because they are easiest due to their dicot design! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glider14 Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 grafting has been successful and a member on terra forums had a picture to prove it...hes sorta disapeared though and his picture is gone.... i would think it would only be possible with similar nepenthes like inermis and dubia....lowii and eppipiata, fusca and maxima...ventricosa and burkei(sp?) thats the only way i think grafting would work. somthing like rajah and ventricosa wouldnt work because you have a very easy nep and a little more difficult one, one grows fast one doesnt etc. Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cdstriker Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Here is a website that someone posted on the pitcher-plants forum of pictures of two N. lowii grafted onto the root stock of two N. x ventrata. http://www.pocketpc.cz/carnivora/pokusy/ne...ing/default.htm It's pretty neat stuff. I can't see any real advantage to doing it though. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glider14 Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 It's pretty neat stuff. I can't see any real advantage to doing it though. because it looks cool? i see that its a dead ventrata stem...but what if it still had growth on the top of it... Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aidan Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 I can't see any real advantage to doing it though In theory a slow growing plant may be grafted to a vigorous rootstock resulting in faster growth. Or perhaps a highland plant could be grafted to lowland rootstock to give a plant tolerant of a wider range of growing conditions. Whether it works or not is another matter... i see that its a dead ventrata stem...but what if it still had growth on the top of it...Alex When grafting it is standard practice to remove all growth points from the stock plant. Otherwise, the stock plant will grow in preference to the scion. Once a graft has taken, the stock plant may still form new growth points from dormant buds and these are removed for the same reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cdstriker Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 The concensus from members in the pitcher-plants forum is that a highland species grafted onto a lowland species rootstock probably wouldn't result in you being able to grow the plant in lowland conditions. That's what got me excited about it. I personally wouldn't want to risk one of my plants. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aidan Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 Whether it works or not is another matter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milos Sula Posted December 8, 2006 Report Share Posted December 8, 2006 When grafting it is standard practice to remove all growth points from the stock plant. Otherwise, the stock plant will grow in preference to the scion. Once a graft has taken, the stock plant may still form new growth points from dormant buds and these are removed for the same reason. Yes Aidan, i have removed all growth points from the N. x 'Ventrata'. When the graft grow together with root stock, N. x 'Ventrata' stopped production of new growth points ( because apical dominance has been restored ). i am sorry for my english Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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