gardenofeden Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 anyone else grow both of these and think they look quite similar...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aidan Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 I have both, but as yet neither is large enough to compare. I have been told that "Big Boy" originally came to the UK years ago from a Swiss grower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FredG Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Aidan, My Cephalotus clone was named 'Big Boy' 20 years ago and was propagated and spread around quite a few growers in the Northern Section of the CPS. Stephen has that clone. Fred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aidan Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 The person I got the plant from has been on the scene at least that long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FredG Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Pssssssssssst! I'm not Swiss Fred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenofeden Posted September 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 it's going great guns, thanks Fred! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenofeden Posted September 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 here is a pic of "Big Boy" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schimatrix Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 stunning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An D Smith Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 Hi Stephen and co I grow Hummers' Giant and have noticed a few distinguishing characteristics. The non-carnivorous leaves are almost circular in shape and never grow into a pointed leaf as in other clones. Also the actyual pitchers tend to be more egg-shaped and slightly smoother. The largest example of this I have ever seen was at Hampshire Carnivorous Plants a few years ago and this particular specimen had only one pitcher, but what a pitcher. Almost four inches tall it looked more like a Nepenthes villosa! Cheers Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pulsar Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 i dont suppose anyone has a cephalotus big boy spare ??? rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenofeden Posted September 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 i dont suppose anyone has a cephalotus big boy spare ???rob should do next year...some cuttings on the go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenofeden Posted September 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 Aidan,My Cephalotus clone was named 'Big Boy' 20 years ago and was propagated and spread around quite a few growers in the Northern Section of the CPS. Stephen has that clone. Fred Fred where did you get it from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FredG Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 Stephen, I bought it from a nursery. It may well have been Sarracenia Nurseries. ( Definitely not a Swiss one) ;) Fred PS Yes I have a few plants, I do like them to get to a good size before passing on though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aidan Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 But where did he get it from etc, etc, etc? I'm only passing on what I was told by a long time grower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FredG Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 Aidan, We named it. We = Northern Section CPS Fred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prozac Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 I noticed one of these on Ebay. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CARNIVOROUS-PLANT-Ce...1QQcmdZViewItem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FredG Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 £19.99 for a small Cephalotus Nice if you can get it Fred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroJon Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 £19.99 for a small CephalotusNice if you can get it Fred huh... Is that worth it o_O;; I remember a couple of years ago i bought one from someone here for under £10... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas.Brinkley Posted November 14, 2006 Report Share Posted November 14, 2006 Pitty we dont have any "giant" forms of cephalotus in Aus...One day i suppose! Just seeing that price for a small plant, wow , a small plant in Aus would cost about $5-$10 aus which is about uuuummmm...3-6 pounds! Do they really grow as gaint forms for you guys?Or are they just bigger plants that have earned themselves a reputation as a giant form? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenofeden Posted November 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2006 Do they really grow as gaint forms for you guys?Or are they just bigger plants that have earned themselves a reputation as a giant form? depends on your definition of "giant" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An D Smith Posted November 15, 2006 Report Share Posted November 15, 2006 Hi All Having just re-read the original article in the ICPS journal about Hummers' Giant, I found it interesting that John Hummer said that anyone with a different large clone of Cephalotus in cultivation can safely assume that the clone is the same as his. Apparently there were originally several plants which were distributed to various growers before they grew up and nobody knows how many there were. The person who supplied mine also said the same thing, that he believed there was only one giant clone in cultivation and that it is being paraded under different names. What do other people think? Cheers Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenofeden Posted November 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2006 hence the original title of this post...although it does not say if the plants were distributed internationally or whether he meant a USA perspective only. the German clone looks different though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FredG Posted November 15, 2006 Report Share Posted November 15, 2006 And when did Hummer have the first plant? Fred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An D Smith Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Hi again Further to my previous post The article was submitted by John Hummer on 10 May 2000 but his plants were originally received in 1986 from a Steve Beckwith in Australia. He goes on to say that he distributed several of these among close associates (USA only?). At the time of the article (2000) he says that he will register it as a cultivar?? Cheers Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aidan Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 The plant is a cultivar based on that CPN entry. I do wish people would resist the urge to name plants after themselves... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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