cgarry Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 I was returning from a visit to my parents in Norfolk and though I would stop off and spend a few minutes CP hunting. I found what I think were: D. rutundifolia, D. anglica, P. grandiflora and some sort of Utric (possibly). Anyway, enjoy the pics. Cheers, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giles_KS Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 Nice photos Chris - looks like a good spot there. Your identifications look to be right, with the exception of the final photo which is not a Utric but a legume, Lotus pedunculatus. Looking in my atlas there don't seem to be all that many locations in Norfolk where those species occur together. Do you have any photos of the area as a whole? Giles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracy Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 Nice photos. Er, I think that last pic is a birds foot trefoil not a utric, though we do have some of the aquatics here. Nice to see there's still some cps around in the wild here in Norfolk. I've only seen D.rotundifolia - once - in the North of the county and what I was told was U.minor in the west. Could you say roughly where the pics were taken? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgarry Posted July 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 Ahh, just goes to prove that I don't know much about Utrics! The flower photographs well even if it isn't a CP. Cheers, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgarry Posted July 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 Sorry Giles, I didn't think take take any photos of the overall area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giles_KS Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 Ah, that's a shame. I do the same - take pictures of the plants but forget the habitat. It really helps to put them in context - after all, these species look the same the world over but the habaitats differ somewhat. I meant to add that the English name of final photo is Greater Bird's Foot Trefoil, the larger, hairier wetland version of normal Bird's Foot Trefoil. Giles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aidan Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 A good selection of native carnivores. I'm not entirely sure, but it may be P. vulgaris rather than P. grandiflora. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giles_KS Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 Oh yes, I agree - didn't notice the name first time around. P. grandiflora doesn't grow in Norfolk, and isn't native to Britain anyway. Almost certainly P. vulgaris. Giles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgarry Posted July 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 Actually Aidan, I think I agree with you. Comparing the photos with the P. grandiflora I have in my mini-bog it is obvious the plants in the photos have much narrower leaves with more turned up edges. I just assumed that it was because of the less than ideal conditions that nature provides compared to my perfect mini-bog! Cheers, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aidan Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 The two plants can look near identical and there are quite a few sites around the country where P. grandiflora has been introduced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giles_KS Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 Yes, that's why I consulted my plant distribution atlas first. P. grandiflora is shown as occurring near Manchester, West Wales, near Weymouth, Somerset and Devon (information current up to 2000). There isn't any reason to suspect anything else but P. vulgaris, although it is true that there are a lot of idiots out there who go round introducing things where they don't belong. Giles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgarry Posted July 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 Actually, I was surprised to see D. anglica instead of D. intermedia - I thought D. anglica was very rare in England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giles_KS Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 Yes it is, ironic really. There are sites in Norfolk, Hampshire and the north, possibly in Shropshire. However, in Ireland and NW Scotland it appears to be the commoner of the two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCarnifreak Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 Very nice anglica! Love to see it grow in his/her own habitat... Here in the Netherlands it's very hard or not to find anymore Thanks for posting! Ries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belinda Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 Great Photos Wish Anglica was native to Australia - beautiful plant regards Belinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sheila Posted July 17, 2005 Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 Great Photos Wish Anglica was native to Australia - beautiful plant regards Belinda Don't you think you have enough over there? you already have all the best ones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belinda Posted July 17, 2005 Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 Hi Don't you think you have enough over there? you already have all the best ones There's always room for one more regards Belinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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