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Here are some quick shots of my hep seedlings. I forgot to turn the leds off so they're a bit pink. here are a few more. Here are a few more, I just got a new point and shoot so I'm fiddling around with it. maybe these came out little better? only thing is this time the fogger was on, gah can't get it just right yet. I guess I have to do it wrong before I do it right. Here is a tiny N. kinabaluensis (N. villosa x N. rajah) despite its size I really like the shape its grown into very shapely for such a small specimen. two seed grown hamata and a small AW macro, among others. N. ramspina N. jamban and N. lowii an old BE N. hamata shadowing three sg eddies N. flava finally starting to look flava like N. vietchii already striping itself out and a complete chamber shot. Here is a cool little rajah, I got it at the same time as the other 4 and its from the same seed pod but its growth is really out pacing the others. thank you for looking. As I figure out how to take better pics and maybe a vid I'll try to improve the photo quality and color.

Hi fellas & fella-esses, For some time now I've been squirreling bits of money away to save up for one of the more flamboyant species of nepenthes and though now I've accumulated enough I'm torn between the two most obvious contenders, In the red corner, I have N. Robcantleyi, a sometimes controversial but thoroughly beautiful species, and in the blue corner I have N. Hamata, of course know for it's fierce looking toothed peristome. Now, my question is, How tough are these to grow outside a terrarium or greenhouse setting? I have heard reports of both being grown in average room conditions but will they survive and pitcher that way, and which would you recommend personally? EDIT: btw, room conditions for me = 18-27C and humidity between 40-55%