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  1. yes these guys sell to Australia, USA, Japan, and every where else, he / they sell more like several thousand ++++ pods I would think , and its seasonal, its seed time now in Indonesia , not yet in Borneo that is on about Oct Nov before the wet or seasonal , but its not all bad, cause they maintain the current plants for seed collection and not rip them out like many other people do over that way , there collected off Gov land I believe and maintained by the local people, as a source of income was my understanding , but who really knows ? , keeping plant stocks going is a good thing , considering how many wild seed actually germinate in the wild its not a huge loss, sure that some seed do drop off from time to time , but less composition all so means the plant's grow much larger ,I would rather this and having the plants ripped out and sold and gone for good as is the current trend in Indonesia by some Ebay sellers FB sellers or poachers !!. a fast $$ and its gone but such are the needs of some in that part of the world . I have had the frustration of growing from seed plants that as not what was indicated on the packet some 2 to 3 years later when the fist ID able pitcher has formed, very frustrating from all the time and effort and expense if in T/c as well , I challenged the seller and to his credit is sending many replacements to try get what i originally wanted, and not a hybrid, really not that hard have collected seed correctly , have done this my self and when you go to the same areas often enough you realy know what is what probably the case of 3 wise monkey syndrome ?? or dont realy give a toss!!
  2. A good place to put this notice as well , sad to say Phil Mann from Western Australia passed away yesterday after a long battle with illness, he will be missed ,his knowledge of Cephalotus is and was more than most could know, have the privilege to be with him of ceph field tip for a week , you soon realize his amazing knowledge of there habitat and they ware about , and every thing else about them , that was not his only CP he knew much about though ,a icon in AU cp's and to most of the world RIP
  3. Sad to say Phil Mann from Western Australia , passed away yesterday from a very bad infection complications after some surgery, he fought a long battle with heath for a long time , he will be missed and will miss his knowledge of Australian CP's specially Cephalotus, fortunately he passed some of that to few ,he was an Australian Icon , for the early days of AU introduction and cultivation of CP's in AU and up till his passing people still craved his knowledge. RIP.
  4. yes Dimi I seem to have same trouble here now , if i dont hear back from seller will post mine with name of supplier as well , just sick of this crap !!. years of time and trouble to get some crappy hybrid not true plant !!.
  5. yes Cairns is a very nice place to visit , lucky i have relatives there and was able to catch up again with them , even though its in AU like me its a very long way to travel up there often , AU is just so darn big .
  6. Just Got back from the ICPS conference in Cairns Queensland AU. could not to the after conference field trips as wife had to be back at work tomorrow. It was A very well organized venue, with a lot of very very knowledgeable speakers ,give a enormous amount of information and points of view even LED lighting against other sources , just confirming my thoughts on the matter as well . speakers like Chien Lee , Jeremiah Harris , Rob Cantley , Alistair Robinson ,Charles Clark, Andreas Fleischmann, Allen Lowrie"s Talk and book launch and many more ,was also great to meet up with old friends and meet many new ones, and put a face to a email or Forum or FB groups , it was a lot of information jammed into 3 full days ,enjoyed it thoroughly ,the morning breakfast, venue breaks and end of day chats were really great as well, met some wonderful people like Marcel and many others Thanks to Greg Bourke his wife and Richard Nunn for putting the event on with great success and all the out of sight helps as well . Just to Add to this thread Rob Cantley has launched the IUCN Species Survival Commission ,and launched it at the conference, he is looking for Carnivorous Plant specialist Group people , who are willing to do study's , research , information gathering on species through out the world ,and get it all together for a more comprehensive world wide body to help in survival of the CP's in now day times . if you want to take part sigh up at www.iucn-cpsg.org or contact [email protected] ,this involves Charles Clark ,Chien Lee and many other organizing it . http://www.iucn-cpsg.org/ Most of us at the conference joined up and have taken up to do particular specie research , or active admin or just help , but much more help is needed so join up and get involved if you can in your area of habitat or one your passionate about . Richard Nunn and I are doing Cephalotus , we start next year to find the actual distribution area & numbers of the cephalotus specie in native habitat , a huge and quite expensive task Its a good cause and I feel very worth while , and a huge task to do .
  7. its very different ,for sure, I cant make up my mind if I like it or not, but good to see some thing new come up , congrats on that for sure , all ways good to see people trying to make a effort to bring some thing new to the world , well done .
  8. the information that Phil Mann put up was that the optimum for cephalotus growing at there prime as around 25c in high sun exposure, , but that can vary from climate to climate through out the world .
  9. could be a good thing to do , are you doing it in summer though or wait for winter to do ??
  10. yep that sure is a big pitcher, Jen think best to stop using gamma radiation therapy on your cephs there getting out of hand look forward to seeing the incubator in action
  11. Cephalots often do not take kindly to new conditions presented quickly , often stress causing pitcher failure and other symptoms to them , hope that is all it is for you , cephalotus revel in over head water as they do in the wild from rain, keep them well watered and pitchers all ways full of water as they should be, if they dry out they can die quickly in sunny times . your mix has moved from the sides of the pot indicating a dryer mix now, it should be keeped very moist to wet in summer time at all times .
  12. AAHH yes great site to see, so unusual and plants have such a tough time there, being inland and lot more sun , they tend to be smaller pitchers but good colour, the G/h plants are much different, with less harsh climate and weather to contend with . they dont tend to colour as much and grow larger pitchers ,will put a photo up later ,see difference from site plants to G/H plants
  13. Dimi , Carl your plants are looking great , sure they will grow quickly for you, I did some time at one of the 2PB sites, investigating the soil , water and surrounding plants at the habitat,the moss that Richard is referring to is a native moss that grows there in winter months and summer when temps and water availability is present , We have the same / similar moss here in our tuber drosera habitats as well . I have a few photos of one of my 2PB plants variations. its very green from low light levels while our weather has been hot and dry here, now winter is here can get some colour into them I hope. they are in 190mm width pots
  14. The description that Allen gives is a general description , location and plant size, open to seasonal changes , on a good season it may appear of good size, season we just had would be very small pitchers or smaller or average size, inconsistent " Giant " in some wild areas may be considered of 5 to 6 cm range max and open to the season changes and authors description at the time , remembering that these areas can be quite harsh in the open. his reason for doing so is sound and relevant still . the word Giant is open to abuse and can be misleading if one choose to take liberties in a description , mite it be better to describe as , pitcher of Blah Blah size in good season or similar ? or this colour in good growing conditions or similar , as any one who grows cephalotus, will know and experienced, plants do not and will not grow consistently with seasonal variations changes in climate , now days even more so , unless you have a consistent Micro climate in a controlled atmosphere or area, even then they will change ! you can change the colour and size of a cephalotus plant by lighting and temperate even the mix you use, with relative ease. and that is consistent with wild plants as well in all aspects as seen from sand site plants inland to coastal plants in more protected areas . all though , in my experience, short it may be ! any one wanting to find a site in open area /county side will need, a very good knowledge of what is need to locate a possible site and usually a lot of free time to do it Days or weeks ,if you think they grow just any where and every where , well you saddling mistaken , most sites are many many kilometers apart to hours of driving apart and usually very separate self contained sites that cross pollinate with each other only as a common group, not other sites ,as most will be just to far away to cross with each other in MOST locations . there for keeping there some times unusual unique variation of some sites holding firm . in no dough that a very long time ago there would have been many more sites , but with farming, progress and people expatiation, and climate change and other aspects they have long gone .
  15. Sean just as stated ? keep it at that for now , see how it pans out , then go from there,
  16. the discussion has progressed amazingly , to where the renaming has poped up even , wow !. I dont think renaming of established plants is a good idea, as there names are to well established and would cause to much confusion, is my thoughts, and how can it be known where they mite come from , from say 30 years back ? but to start a fresh lot of plants like location named plants, with places that can be seen or trusted buy growers, this has been set in motion all ready. our aim here is to have these plants available at some stage for prices that every one can afford and get and not the crazy prices that have been going on in Ebay , we trying to sort this out here and ,weather it can be done .well its another problem with AU import export laws and the amounts of $$ this crazy Gov ask to do that . We are having a meeting soon to try and nut this out and how to go about it , hope we can get some things sorted out some how, a lot to sort out ,with AU laws and other aspects . seed may be a easy way out , but plants or cutting would be better .
  17. nice find here , as stated in this reference Geospatial Higher geography Oceania Country Australia Locality Albany area, ca 2 km N of Ledge Beach. Heath on peaty, grey sand. 2 km north of Ledger beach / bay , all most right , may be a little further , ! is close to one site !.
  18. So in all this fog of what is where and do is doing what, Andy , can you please post some / several just taken photos of your Ledger Bay mother plant , I have photos of plants from the sites on Ledger road and Gull rock road , and would like to compare them with your plant thanks , hope your not away on busyness again and view this before you get emails from friends again
  19. Not talking about hybrids here , , Cephalotus is cephalotus , and that's it , you really do not get a whole lot a change in any plants like sarra or neps and other plants , ,you may get a slightly bigger lid or different colour or bigger body or a slightly muted shaped body that's it , not the dramatic differences you see in hybrids of other specie of CP's , so ruler that one out !!. it will all ways hold the true cephalotus , no location genetic changes So you would like to have all cephs just be named as Western Australian pitcher plants , and that's it , no location , no where its from , all put in to one barrel ?? so no one knows where a plant comes from at all ?? interesting , I think I keep to my way of location information my self
  20. yep ! dont stick you heads in the sand or have tunnel vision , ,we have actual people here who can tell you locations of plants with minimal information ! more location plants well be name and shown soon enough as seen on Face book all ready , , many misleading and incorrect information has been passed out over many many years for what ever reason , wouldn't it be nice to know like all other cp's where the location is ?? and not just a stupid name of some one or there house or wife or what ever ?? example :- N.lowii Mt.Kinabalu , Mt. trusmardi , Pig hill , ect , N.Rajah , Mt.Kinbabalu , Mt.tambuyukon .! and i been here too to most of these and many more !. why not just get it right ?? I suppose most just have not seen or been to these places to know enough about it, but most I would think have not been to Borneo ,Phillipines, ECT , and the names and locations you all except ?? recently climbed Mt. Victoria saw N.attenboroughii ,you going to say I not seen it so we will call it N. fat green pitcher plant ?? Sarrs how many been there and seen them you all except there location names, Tuber drosera, how many seen what I see here millions & millions of plants, , may be 10 people , and its excepted by all that its right names and location ,I recently found a unusual type of D. whittakerii , and Allen some new tuber plants, so are these going to be call some thing different or what is put up ?? do I need to go on !! so what is the differences??
  21. Hi Andy , Glad you could get into the thread ,hope your sea food expo was good , , have been to these places myself ,and can tell you that at the ledger Bay site / area , no cephs are there, so the actual thread Title is correct , They are in fact quite a distance from the bay, inland , I know why Allen would put that in the packet , as ceph sites were and still are closely guarded by those in the know ,in-fact on a resent trip there no one convey that there was any closer sites than were seen and photographed , I can ask him in July when I see him at the ICPS conference soon , but that amount of time he would struggle to recall any thing that long ago. " as stated " no one is accusing any body of any thing, just would like to get ceph's named correctly more often now ,and yes there is a Ledger Bay ,my mistake , Google didn't show it, and no sign's are there at the Bay or headland on Gull rock road or Ledger road as stated ,. seen the plants there and would not consider them to be large or giant wild habitat plants, have seen much lager at many other sites than in this area . Well there is a opportunity to get it correctly named or have a incorrect name , what would be better !! , what about tying to get them correctly named for a change !!. as for Giant , would consider any pitcher around 7.5 to 8 cm classed as giant, approx , these days , 5 to 6 .5 just average and 3 to 4.5 small .
  22. Andy is from Triffid , only found that out last night , though he may just be a hobby grower,
  23. is what I would like to get rid off , is the vague or incorrect naming of locations or area that are out there, and get it named properly ,so we dont get all these different plants pop up with incorrect or just silly names , or misleading names, and get some proper structure to naming of the plants,then every knows what they got and where it comes from , then call it the silly name or what ever, like two people bay all green or big red or big donk , then at least you know you have a 2 people Bay ceph and a silly name attached, as there is quite a variation of plants in some 2 people bay sites only a some thing that i like to happen.
  24. yes they grow well for you , lots of good white new rhizomes and tap roots, hope you did this in very early spring or last bit of winter, as they will go back wards for a time , and need to spring time grow time to get going again in most causes, show us some photos in a month from now please ,would be very keen to see what they do
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