Paul, you've got the wrong end of the stick somewhere in our conversation. I wouldn't move to Essex if you paid me, lived there in the 70's and 80's and wouldn't move back for anything. My daughter lives there and what I said was when I retire, I would like to move closer to her, that's anything less than the current 165 miles, but definitely not Essex. It's true this will probably be my last open day at this address, I get very poor light and my garden isn't big enough, so I hope next year to be somewhere with a much bigger garden, I'm thinking in terms of a 24' x 50' polytunnel (dream on Les) with plenty of light so I can expand my collection and grow more from seed. It certainly will not be my last open day. I also have another hobby that sees me flashing round Castle Combe and Thruxton Circuits on a regular basis, no race tracks in Essex, they just use the roads to race on in Essex.