Kiwi Earl

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  1. Alongside the incredibly tidy greenhouse and fine looking plants within, that's a bloody nice Darlingtonia. Kudos all around Martin!
  2. I guess not then.... Bit disappointing.....
  3. Me too. Can an administrator advise on a remedy for this please?
  4. Droseara auriculata growing beside major urban motorway in Auckland, New Zealand
  5. Drosera spatulata is present in large numbers at the mountainous location below in the temperate North Island, New Zealand. As can be seen, they are happy on the exposed moss covered rhyolitic surfaces.
  6. The numbers of each variant in the overall sum of seedlings was relatively balanced except for the heavily veined Clone 'E'. While there were other veined but not 'coloured' individuals, Clone 'E' was the only one of that degree.
  7. Given the current debate about the legitimacy of Sarracenia flava "varieties", I thought the following would be of interest. I will be using the term variety for simplicity other than for those instances of quotation marks. Normally not interested or seeing the value in cross-pollinating solid examples of varieties, back in 2007 I conducted just such an experiment using S. 'Waccamaw' and a particularly strong S. flava var. rugelii (a very tall fluted form with the tube flaring markedly towards the peristome). S. 'Waccamaw' was the recipient of the var. rugelii pollen under strictly controlled isolation. The original intention of the experiment was not simply to see what came out. Rather than self-pollinate the var. atropurpurea, I was interested to see the result of pollination by a var. rugelii in an attempt to draw out recessive alleles from the var. atropurpurea. In essence, to discover whether the Carolina genes of the var. atropurpurea would express a "var. cuprea", native as that variety is considered to be to the Carolinas also, notwithstanding the influence of the var. rugelii genes native to that variety's range distinct as it is from the Carolina S. flava range. While form was an interesting side issue, colour expression was the focus. Here are the parents: Below are some notable examples of the offspring: Clone 'A' is a striking "var. atropurpurea" and to any eye unfamiliar with the experiment and the significant distinction between the parents, other than perhaps for the presence of the strong var. rugelii splotch, this plant would likely be accorded var. atropurpurea status. It has something of the wide shouldered fluted appearance of the parent var. rugelii clone but not as strongly as in other offspring. As passed down by S. 'Waccamaw' the colour saturation on the outer pitcher surfaces while the interior remains golden is significant. Similar but distinct is Clone 'B'. Again, and perhaps slightly more strongly than in Clone 'A', the distinctive pitcher and hood form of the var. rugelii parent has proved dominant and is readily apparent. Yet again, the pigmentation trait of the var. atropurpurea appears to have influenced the colour of this particular offspring although the lack of solid red at the terminal end of the hood is reminiscent of a strongly coloured var. rubricorpora. Outside the context of the experiment, in all likelihood it would be labelled as such. The column splotch is not as pronounced as in Clone 'A' but there is significantly more veining within the pitcher than in all the other offspring clones I present here. Lacking in both parents, this interior veining perhaps represents a recessive Carolina flava var. flava allele present in the var. atropurpurea. Note the diminutive pitchers are an expression of the full sized one. In contrast to Clones 'A' and 'B' (and Clone 'C' below), Clone 'D' presents as an attractive "var. rubricorpora" in colouration. The wide shouldered fluted form of the parent var. rugelii is very evident in this clone. Again, interior veining is very limited and the column splotch is no more than the limited confluence of red of the S. 'Waccamaw' parent. Arguably, Clone 'D' seems more an expected result of the breeding being a mid-line blend of the features of both parents in terms of colouration. However, perhaps var. rubricorpora colouration has shown through from the var. rugelii as a recessive allele, intimately related as those two "varieties" are in the field. Moving on to Clone 'C'. Indeed, a "var. cuprea" expression exhibiting all the colour traits of a 'genuine' Carolina var. cuprea was a result. Form-wise, the notably wide mouth and flared upper pitcher and the distinct central hood form of the parent var. rugelii clone were reproduced. An inference can be drawn that a recessive var. cuprea phenotype exists within the Carolina var. atropurpurea parent. As you can see from the images of Clone 'C', notwithstanding its pitcher form and rather a strong splotch, it would not be unreasonable for anyone to accept that it is a genuine var. cuprea from a Carolina location. In fact, with the fluted form of the var. rugelii parent it presents as a very handsome "var. cuprea" specimen indeed. As it happens, three such "var.cuprea" were produced from the sum of germinated seed but this clone was far and away the best of them. It is significant that the copper colouration of the hood fades over time as in the case of a good percentage of genuine Atlantic Coast var. cuprea, whereas the red pigment of its red siblings does not. Then there was this specimen, Clone 'E'. I contend this could be accorded the name "var. ornata" (albeit with a strong splotch) or "var. flava" (again, the splotch). For those whom feel variety names are an imperative, then what exactly would this be described as? Not representative colour-wise of either parent per se, one could argue it represents nothing more or less than an expression wave within the genotypic S. flava ocean. Indeed, such offspring are thrown as potentially representatives of historical lineage on occasion as a result of breeding one var. rugelii specimen with another. Visually this is as recorded in the field. Apologies for the lack of a individual photo, however there were a number of offspring that were as close to the var. rugelii parent as Clone 'A' is to its var. atropurpurea parent. So, having intermingled the phenotypes representative of two currently isolated S. flava populations we get, in this case at least, the expression of all but the "variety" known as maxima. Certainly I'm not willing to simply label these particular horticulturally produced plants as any of the nominated 'varieties' as found in the wild because they look like them. If 'variety' names are deemed by many as here to stay, the example of the above plants goes to my contention elsewhere that S. flava var. atropurpurea of the Atlantic Coast should not be described as having a presence in the S. flava var. rubricorpora populations of Western Florida 700 miles away with simple colour being a singularly all too simplistic element in that geographical representative context. The above clones will in all likelihood remain solely in my collection. And, they'll even more likely remain labelled alphabetically. All in all, it proved a fascinating and worthwhile experiment for my part which I hope others will find interesting. Any-which-way, it dished up some very attractive S. flava clones.
  8. As a sometime Sarracenia barber, here are some before and after photos of two of my recent clients, a Mr S.F Rugelii and a Mr B.I.G Red-Moorei.... (coffee mug gives scale for size of leaves)
  9. Revisting an old topic, here's a shot of a clone that was propagated from seed rather than asexual division but sold (not to me) in the UK several years ago as S.'Claret' with the selfed parent allegedly the genuine article. Very nice plant nonetheless.
  10. Not sure if you can get it from the photo but this deformed rugelii pitcher looks like a portal into another universe. Just enter and have your mind bent by the dilation of space and time......
  11. A large stylised VFT features prominently in the vid for the Queens of the Stone Age, The Vampyre of Time and Memory
  12. I used the term flower in a colloquial sense, a mistake on my part. Of course, you are correct.
  13. Hi everyone The largest flower on the planet has just bloomed for the first time here in New Zealand at Auckland Domain's Wintergardens public display greenhouses. For those not familiar with the species, endemic to Sumatra, Amorphophallus titanum has a seven year flowering cycle and the staff at the Wintergardens were awaiting with baited breath the possibility of a flower emerging from the dormant corm. The first visible growth of the flower bud was met with much excitement and the specimen produced a beauty of an example of the species with the height to the top of the central spadix being 2.5 metres. The opening of the bloom was publicly announced and vast numbers of people visited the warm house in single file to view it during the flower's viable 48 hour period. I viewed it two days in a row, the first when it was in optimal bloom; the second when it had started to shut up shop. If you are not aware of it, the flower expresses a rotting mammal aroma in order to attract pollinators, hence one of its common names, Corpse Flower. The smell was reasonably strong on my first visit but was absent the next day. If you are new to the subject, an on-line search will fill you in on the biology of A. titanum without me going into detail here. Suffice to say, it was a cool sight. Here are some pics: the first two taken by my mate Bruce.
  14. That's the one Andy! Didn't remember it was your baby. Was great fun!
  15. I realise it may not be the best time of year for you northern types....
  16. Seem to remember there was a thread, View from my window, that was a bit of a hit with members for a good long while. Searched but couldn't find it. So, thought might kick off a new one if anyone is interested (it's probably in the wrong section but maybe the mods could sort that one?). Here's the view out some of my windows right now... (please excuse the support structure - it has been bloody windy down here lately, seemingly never ending!)
  17. Francesco, I love viewing your season progressions each year. Congrats on another good one - great looking plants. [Whoops! a twofa...]
  18. Francesco, I love viewing your season progressions each year. Congrats on another good one - great looking plants.
  19. Missed this post originally. Great stuff Mike. Invaluable to those of us who haven't seen these spots with our own eyes. The Darlingtonia sites look like magical places to me, nothing but nature and the wind.
  20. Here's another one courtesy of my buddy Don - this time a S.flava var. rubricorpora. It seems clear it is a genetic mutation of what might be referred to as the papillae of the fruit surface rather than an environmental impact of some kind. Amazes me that in all my years I've never come across it.
  21. Do you have any photos you could post?
  22. Looking through my outdoor S.flava var. flava collection I discovered one possessed seed ovaries with anomalous superficial cell structures. This was common to all the flowers on the plant and something in 20 years of cultivation I haven't witnessed before. The specimen is in nominally healthy condition. Checkout the following photos of the Shallotte, Brunswick Co, NC plant in question - each close up is a different ovary. The specimen is in nominally healthy condition. Has anyone else encountered these elongated spike structures....?
  23. Here are my thoughts as posted originally on The Sarracenia Forum. Amazing place Mike. Must've been brilliant to visit and thanks for the posting the terrific photos and a matter worthy of debate, as you say! As for the question of "atropurpurea" in these infamous sites and perhaps lone individuals within var. rubricorpora stands, I still don't buy it. My views have been well laid out but put basically I don't accept the variety name based on the following while fully recognising you have visited the plants in person: 1) S.flava var. atropurpurea is a name assigned to a distinct population of a red form of plants in the Carolinas they being isolated from the ones in your photos both genetically and geographically. 2) Those Carolina var. atropurpurea share an intimate relationship with the region's S.flava var. flava as evidenced in this and other photos of wild plants (photo Don Schnell, CPN Volume 27, Number 4, December 1998, pages 116-120 ) A. var maxima, B. var atropurpurea, C. var flava, D. var ornata, E. var cuprea 3) The "atropurpurea" in your and other's photos are seen in an intimate relationship with S.flava var. rugelii. Clearly, there exists a foundational relationship between the red plants and var rugelii. 4) This relationship between red S.flava and var. rugelii occurs in a number of locations in the Florida Panhandle as you note. In the locations you highlight, the red plants are intermingled with or alongside var. rugelii. Indeed, looking at your photos I believe the hood form of the "atropurpurea" is distinctly Florida Panhandle - particularly representative of the var. rubricorpora broad, floppy morphology. By that proposition they are quite distinct from S.flava hood form in plants native to the Atlantic coastal plain. 5) The genetics in these Panhandle S.flava populations allow for the expression of the cut throat var. rugelii; the yellow lid red tube var. rubricorpora; and the all red plants wherever they are found. My position is that all three of these are related and their expression is a broad one. The expression of var.rugelii in these locations is, in fact, no less notable than that of var. rubricorpora or the all red plants other than being deemed the so by human beings. 6) S.flava var. rubricorpora has, since Schnell's 1998 paper naming the variety and beyond, been acknowledged as being highly variable with a wide spectrum. In his book, Sarraceniaceae of North America, McPherson notes this as "The overall colouration of Sarracenia flava var. rubricorpora is extremely variable" (p 249). In his earlier volume, Pitcher Plants of the Americas, McPherson highlights this theretofore accepted variability in the following photo line up of var. rubricorpora specimens. Note the fully infused red/purple specimen on the right (Photo Stewart McPherson) 7) I ask again, what of the two plants in this photo of my own Florida red wild sourced genetic stock that has remained isolated from interbreeding since germination from the same seed pod? What is the plant on the left? And, the one on the right? It is in a sense irrelevant which location these two clones are from outside of the fact they are from the Panhandle like so many others standing in the various habitats as we speak. 8) Referring to your Site #2 photo and your hunch as to hood colour at opening, what (again from the Florida Panhandle) is this one and what was its hood colour at opening? 9) In closing, even if the submission is correct that some of them open as all red, I reiterate my contention that the "atropurpurea" in the Panhandle are sufficiently distinct from S.flava var. atropurpurea as found 700 miles east (a massive advance on 20 miles) that they should not share the name. Whilst I am happy to have the all red "atropurpurea" accepted as part of the var. rubricorpora spectrum with out the attached "atropurpurea" moniker, I am also open to those entirely red plants as evidenced in your photos to be classified with a variety name identifying them as something distinct within what are otherwise Panhandle genetics where they both are found and spring from. I guess the question then is: what name would be appropriate....? 10) As for the transplanted theory? I simply cannot accept that until evidence fixing the event comes to light. For all the reasons I have given above and elsewhere, I think the answer to these red S.flava is to be found by un-impassioned observation of the populations and, moreover, future genetic research to determine the nature of the exhibited relationship with var. rugelii.
  24. Here's one of the flava var rugelii X leucophylla clones I created back in 2004 using carefully selected parents. Despite its age, I never get tired of having it around. Things are in full swing here in the Southern Hemisphere. These pitchers are a couple of weeks old.