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Yeah, it would be nice if I had taken photos, but at the time I figured this would be something fairly well known in the community--in any collection of just about any kind of plant when the gardener is doing a nice good of keeping the plants happy, they will look much better even more robust. Tiny flowers don't show as much detail as larger examples and it is well known temps affect plant and flower colors with cooler weather generally promoting more reds and purples...
This could well be the case. However, it is not the colour variation or size that I am questioning; this depends on age of flower as well. What I would really like to see is how much the patterning in the flower varies with different conditions.
To me, more P. x 'Sethos' in USA look a lot more like the definitive photos than those in Europe, and I have assumed that this is due to the source of the plants and that most plants in Europe are from Dutch TC nurseries and are neither P. x 'Sethos' or P. x 'Weser', though they can be labelled as such by the nursery. Jim's plant above looks a lot like the real thing.
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Hi Dave - thanks - it would be great if you can post some photos to show the variation from a single plant. Thanks.
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The plant above does not look like Sethos to me. If you have photos of the same clone with varying flower patterns due to conditions, they would be great to post.
The abundance of misnamed plants probably varies a lot with locality. From what on see on the web, more plants in the US appear to be the real thing (or close to it).
Some more examples just from a quick search on this forum - these don't look much like Sethos:
http://www.cpukforum.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=39406
http://www.cpukforum.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=37558
http://www.cpukforum.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=25957
These do look more like like Sethos:
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/4962/plants031zq1.jpg
http://www.tropical-mesa.com/a_img_share/CP2K/P_Sethos_c.jpg
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At last, after 3yrs of tracking these down, a holiday to Scotland and some kind permission, I am able to point you to clear photos of Slack's definitive P. 'Weser' and P. 'Sethos'.
I managed to find the slide collection used for 'Insect Eating Plants and How to Grow Them' and discovered that, although the slide published in the book was missing from what remained, two more slides were in the collection, clearly taken at the same time (I expect through the classic photography 3-shot method of under and over exposure). The edited reprint of the book, 'Insect Eaters' notably missed out the photo of P. 'Weser' and P. 'Sethos', possibly because the original slide has now disappeared.
Unfortunately, the foliage that relates to these flowers is out of focus and is of little use. The foliage in the foreground of the photo in the book does not appear to pertain to the flowers themselves and so cannot be definitely said to be either 'Sephos' or 'Weser'.
Here they are:
http://jimfoxy.co.uk/sethos_weser.html
Although many of us know that the true forms are in circulation in collections, there are even more forms named as such that are not the true cultivars. I hope this reference will help the confusion that has dogged these cultivars since the Dutch nurseries began pretending to sell them.
I am urging the current guardian of the slides to scan all he has in but he is a busy chap!
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I found mine in a cheap pack of rubbish paintbrushes in some general low cost store - it doesn't matter if a few bristles fall out!
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I have never had a problem with Ping pollination.
Maybe my success is because, after washing it through, I usually run the fine paintbrush that I use between my lips first just to pick up a bit of saliva and get the bristles to a point!
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The plant with the violet flowers is P. x Tina. The plant on the first picture, is probably P. x Weser. The redness of the leaves is due to the amount of light.
Agree with P. x 'Tina'. The first will almost certainly not be P. x 'Weser' but most likely a false clone with similar parentage (or later crossing). I have never come across a true P. x 'Weser' from a garden centre, but many are mislabelled as such.
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We loves our word games. It's a bit like a modern 'Four Candles' sketch isn't it?
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At last, the fifth seedling from this cross has flowered. In the first year it had slug damage and in the second year a caterpillar attacked it. Now it has recovered enough to flower. Interestingly, it looks similar to a small Sierra Mixe laueana clone with the distinct yellow spot. Instead of pillar box red, though, it is more salmon coloured. It is also a bit smaller.
Alongside a P. x "Zarquon" sibling:
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Interesting. I have not had the same experience so can only guess at a problem from a pest or the media. 6 months from transplant is not that long if it had a stressful time; maybe it is just a bit mixed up? Best to have a really close inspection for a possible pest, though.
Also, have you checked directly with the Andy you got it from to see if he has any ideas?
Lovely photos and plants Joseph.
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you keep them in the same pot as the seedlings or in a different one?
Good food for Pings, too. They get everywhere they can jump (which is a long way). They have randomly distributed themselves throughout my collection and often float on water between pots, too.
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Congrats all. A lovely variety of photos and a splendid winner.
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P. 'Titan' is a cultivar so one plant should not differ from another genetically. Has it always grown in the manner you describe?
Are you familiar with the Winter appearance of the plant? Is it simply this? A photo would help a lot.
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I have had them for years and I have identified no damage. There are some species that eat live plants but most eat dead vegetation.
Good luck with them - it will be like herding cats to get them to go where you want!
Re mould problems. Is the mould on the seedlings or the compost? Try to dry the compost as much as you dare and do what you can to get air movement. If it is grey mould on the seedlings, then I don't think springtails will help; they process mould on the surface of the compost. Do a search for fungicides on the forum but options are very limited these days (everything effective has been banned) once the mould gets hold.
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Lovely, Marcus. Do you think that P. kondoi really is P. kondoi?
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How can there be more than one form of the cultivar P. 'Aphrodite'?
It happens when plants are sold with the wrong name e.g. somebody buys a plant labelled P. 'Aphrodite' but when it flowers it turns out that it is not - what do you call it? More than one grower has self pollinated a cultivar and labelled the offspring by the same name. Completely wrong but sometimes they know no different.
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Something for the bizarre list!
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Don't forget to measure the conductivity of the water by itself at the same time - to 'tare' the meter.
For ref, my similar issue: http://www.cpukforum.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=37079
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Great reference photos - thanks for posting.
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Sure, but you can choose all those things. You can't choose your neighbours. Who would choose Columbian vodka?
I try not to be prejudice, but I think that is a rubbish quote.
P.S. My wine comes from all over but usually ends up going down just one place.
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These are designed to scare people but I always wander if there any truth to these.
What do you guys make of this one?
You mean anything this person says?: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Wickstrom
Mmmm, he's a doctor. It must be true! Doctor of what exactly?
I am not even sure if you noticed that this youtube video was being used as an example of rubbish?
Always check the source!!! Remember, any psycho can post on youtube.
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Perhaps its just that you are taller than you used to be :)
Come on, Gary, you have to back up that one somehow...
Shame on anyone treating anything written in the Sun as having more realism than a story in the Beano.
One of the biggest problems for these types of issue is the fact that we naturally pay more attention than we should to those articles that forecast doom scenarios simply because the scenario would, if true, have more effect on us. Most of us have little ability to actually handle probability in a logical manner. That is why so many people do the lottery or think that just because they won £1000 then they will have more chance if they then change their numbers; it is nonsense. A peer reviewed respectable journal paper that predicts a bit of change will never get as widely talked about as some disaster scenario that some fruitcake has put on youtube. There is a reason why these nutty scenarios only find a home on youtube - it's because they are a load of crap and would not stand up to any scrutiny.
Why aren't 'politicians' given the same generic categorisation as 'scientists' in the media? How many times do we hear a news story starting with, 'Scientists have....'. It is like saying, 'Politicians have...'. The politician could be the prime minister of England or could be a low level administrator in North Korea. How about, 'Footballers have won the FA Cup...' The scale of impact should be assessed according to the history and authority of the person or group. There are equivalents of authority in the scientific community but the naming is stupid and so joe public has no chance of understanding who is more qualified than who.
For example, a Doctor of Science (D.Sc or Sc.D) is a very difficult to achieve scientific status in the UK and means that the scientist has been recognised by lots of other scientists as having contributed an awful lot to the field of science that they are in. It usually means that they have published lots of important papers that have greatly helped our understanding of something or other. If you hear a UK 'Doctor of Science' talking then it is probably a good idea to listen (if you can understand). Another example of a doctor is a Ph.D (doctor of philosophy) in, for example, music. A UK Doctor of Science has probably spent at least 25yrs in their field of study whereas the Ph.D could have spent just 3yrs. Both scientists are addressed with the Dr prefix and so it gives the media an excuse to give one as much importance as the other in whatever subject they choose to quote them on, especially if they are stupid enough to talk about something outside their field of expertise.
Of course, the PhD qualification usually has absolutely nothing to do with philosophy but is used readily as a qualification in biology, chemistry, physics etc. Why should a scientist get a qualification in philosophy? What a rubbish naming system. It is no wonder that those who have never been to university have no idea who to believe. And then their are medical doctors! So many doctors and yet so many differences. It is crazy.
What is even worse is that, in the USA, a D.Sc is the equivalent to a Ph.D! Any bugger can get a Ph.D if they are willing to slave away for 3 years on something.
It is no wonder that people don't know who to believe. The naming system is not really helping our society advance.
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Great stuff, James! My wife likes anthropomorphizing Sarracenia, too, though she doesn't have your skills.
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Hi Bill. Unlucky. Credit card companies have to cover all fraudulent activities otherwise they would disappear overnight. I had a funny one which I still half think may not have been fraud but could have been an error by the credit card company. About a year after I had been over in the States, my credit card suddenly started to show transactions at pretty much the same places I had been to the year before. I couldn't check the exact details because I did not have my old statements.
I concluded that either the credit card computer system had glitched and repeated a number of my transactions a year out of date or that somebody had cloned my card a year previously and then waited that long before using the card in order to displace themselves from me being able to track who it was who cloned it and that it was simply coincidence that they 'shopped' in at least two of exactly the same stores I shopped at. Upon investigation, this technique of sitting on the details for a while is, apparently, not uncommon as the card owner is less likely to work out who it was who cloned the card.
Another time I was in transit in Chile and withdrew some money from a machine using my credit card. I later found out that my wife got a call from the credit card company asking if either of us were in Canada. She said no, of course. I don't think she even knew I was passing through Chile as I was on the way to the Falkland Islands so Canada and the Falklands was not an obvious link. The idiots had obviously got the countries wrong.
The bottom line tip is to make a regular check on your transactions. Oh, and try to inform your credit card company before going to another country. If you spot a fraud then inform your credit card company immediately and they should cover it.
A couple of Mexican Pings
in Pinguicula
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Interesting P. laueana clone, Stefano. Any details of its heritage?