Christian Klein

Hi Dimitar , I have seen your post here with my pics and think there is something that should be said about your post: 1. The so called true Giant ( from Klaus Keller) is as far as I know coming from Harald Weiner ( not Weinert ) who was the first in Germany who did grow and sell this clone, he told me that this clone is coming from a Botanical Garden in Sidney he did think that it is possibly a triploid clone. This was in the 80s .This clone can easily be seperated from others by its ultraslow growth and its extremely big traps.but needs a long time to show these. 2. On my post there are not 2 different Bg Wilhelma clones, and I even did not write this. Its only 2 different looking plants from of the same clone. The clones from Wilhelma and Bg Mainz are the same and have the same origin. Maybe there are also others but my plants are def. same. 3. You should be a bit more careful when you write such things as, for example,that German growers like to rename the same their plants with different names or creating new ones. For me this has a very bad taste and I really do not like to read this. 4. I do not know how many years of Cp experience you may have,I for myself can look back on 40 years of collecting plants now. And believe me, I do not need to replace any name by another. But I think it is cominig with time and is a kind of name evolution. The people tend to name a plant after the source they got it from, and just this results in different names at the end. Now we have a lot new clones of cephalotus and most of them are not that unique, that you can clearly seperate them. That does not make it easier. Also many plants are sold on Ebay with many phantastic names, and most of them are grown in a Dutch nursery on the same table .... 5. I really recognize the work you do to find out the real name and source of any clone, but at least you will fail .... You can see this, for example, that most people here cannot even remember Harald Weiner, who has had the first bigger collection in Europe and was the first seller, where you could get rare plants in the past. Chris

Ada: It is not completly true . I have bought a big part of Stefan's collection plants and a part of his sarracenia seedlings last year, but not the complete collection .I could not take all the plants I would like, because I did not have the place to grow them in good condition ( but who has ) There have been many 1000 plants in Stefans greenhouses. Stefans beautyful and very well grown collection is not longer existing. It's a pity, as we always did work together and have had more or less the same stock. I will keep and grow all this plants, including many new selected clone which have never been offered before, for a while, and offer them on my list as they are big enougth to divide and to sell them. Chris

You are invited to Carnivorsandmore Nursery !!! After a few years without any event , we have planed to organize a open day again . It wil be at Saturday 21 .9.13 in Merzig, Germany . This is located between Saarbrücken, Luxemburg and Metz . We would like to have a nice day here with Cp friends and all other interested people . We will not offer plants for sale, if you are interested to buy something please preorder . There will not be the time to prepare plants at this date . If you want to offer plants, you can do. We will have some space for you .(please inform us ) For all of you which have never been here before, what can you expect : Tropical warm house, nepenthes, ant plants , ferns , orchids other plants Tropical cold house , nepenthes , orchids (dracula), ferns many other plants . Tropical intermediate house , Drosera, Heliamphora, Nepenthes, Tillandsia many others. Sarracenia house: Sarracenia 600-800 different clones, many Dionaea , Cephalotus, Disa Orchids Bog garden Garden pond with some big Sturgeons. Tropical Waterlilies and Lotus Interesting garden plants We will start our garden grill and so we can have a barbecue together . Drinks will be free here . I really hope many people will come and visit us .(pease drop us a mail that we will know many people will come ) If anyone needs a bed for the night we can organize this . Greetings The Carnivorsandmore Team Chris, Claudia, Sarah and Tim Antworten Mehrfachzitat Bearbeiten

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Willy: Against spidermites You should use a Acarizid like Kiron or Vertimec, and insecticide does not really work because the mites are no insects . I think Dimethoat should work too . Chris

inoxy : I love this plant too, it is one of my favorites. BTW, for me it seems that this particular plant is infected by red spider mites, so be careful and keep an eye on it . Chris

Karl :Tellereisen and Monkey Ass is the same Monkey Ass is my clone 8, but I think you got clone 7 so it is not the same . My favorite is Biohazard, what do you think, as You got it now ? D- Muscipula : First we wanted to name this Clone Tellereisen (what is the German word for Bear trap , but there is a other clone with this name going around, so it was not a good idea .Monkey ass was my wife's idea .Do not know why.... Chris

Hi I do have a good number of these plants in my collection ,and have never seen any red color in them . They are just coming with flowers here ,so I will look a bit closer this year . Chris

I have male 2 flowers of my N tenuis plant coming next days . I do not believe that there is a female tenuis in flower at this time ,but there is some hope left to find one here . I would like to create some nice, small growing hybrids if there is no chance to get the real thing . Best with something that grows at the same location as N. tenuis (like adnata or eustachia ) If you are interested to get pollen please ask me . (Please do not offer any hybrid partners )

Hi all I have seen that Alexanders photos of my collection have brought some confusion onto the forum . I was not registred on this forum ,because my collection does not leave me the time to write a lot (as You can see on the photos ;-) ) Here is a list of names to the Photos : 1 Overview mexican pings 2 Dr.graomogolensis (I am pretty shure with it ) 3 N.mikei G.Bandahara BE 4 Cold house 5 Cold house 6 Warm house 7 Warm house 8 Dr. yutajensis 9 N.amp.Tayeve 10 N.amp Speckled 11 N.thorellii orginally from H.Weiner 12 N.sumatrana 13 N.truncata 14 +15 N.eustachia 16 N.rafflesiana x stenophylla 17 N.veitchii Lowland 18 U. spec but not shure 19 N.dubia from A Wistuba (possibly a hybrid with N.gymnamphora ) 20 N.ampullaria Tricolor BE 21 N.mikei Pangulubao 22 N.campanulata 23 N.fusca sarawak 24 N.kahsiana 25 N.jacquelinae x izumiae 26 N.mikei G.Bandahara BE 27 N.spectabilis G.Bandahara 28 H.tatei 29 +30 N.sanguinea Purple 31 N.bongso malesiana 32 P.nivalis 33 N.mira 34 N.alata Boshiana Mimic 35 N.copelandii Uppers 36 N.tenius 37 N.mira 38 N.emay Dark brown Pitchers 39 N.emay upper Pitchers ,same plant as previous 40 + 41+ 42 N.spec Sumatra 1 A.Wistuba 44+45 N.argentii 46 N.petiolata 47 + 48 N.tentaculata Kinabalu 49 N.boshiana BE 50 N.N.gymnamphora x ?, natural hybrid 51 N.jacquelinae BE ,possibly a hybrid 52 N.spathulatha 53 U.aureomaculata 54 + 55 U.alpina x endresii ,own hybrid 56 U spec .G Tahan ,Malaysia .Possibly a form of U.caerulea(pers .comment A.Fleischmann ) 57 U.involvens 58 N.masoalensis 59 N.spec Viking 60 N.spec Viking 61 U andongensis (not absolutly shure ) Many thanks to all the people which gave nice comments to this photos . I am surprised to such a good result which Alexander had ,after we had very dark conditions to shoot them . Greetings