Christian

Hello, we have now fixed the times of the lecture, please see the following link for the up to date information for the times of the lectures: https://www.carnivoren.org/icps-conference-2024/vortraege/ Registration to the Conference will be open until May, 12th. Please note that the tickets for visiting Mirek Srba are limited to 50 persons. I am sure they will all be sold soon! If you have any question, please don't hesitate to ask! Regards Christian

Dear all, the registration is open since about three weeks now. You can register on the following link: https://www.carnivoren.org/icps-conference-2024/anmeldung/ Please check our infopage in the comment before to be up to date about the plant sellers and lectures. Let us know if you have any questions! We are happy to help you. Regards Christian

Dear all, we have updated out Homepage in the last weeks with lots of information about the conference next year in Vienna: https://www.carnivoren.org/icps-conference-2024/ Registration to the Conference will start tomorrow (Thu. Nov, 9th) at 8pm (Berlin Time, GMT +1) You will find a link to the registration form on that page tomorrow. If you have any questions please don't hesitate to ask us! Kind Regards Christian

Hello, i am happy to let you know that the german carnivorous plants society (G.F.P.) will host the ICPS-Conference in May next year! This event coincides with the 40th anniversary of the society. We would love to celebrate this with all of you! We are still in the planing phase, so please for now just save the date: Save the Date - ICPS-Conference and 40 years G.F.P. When: Fr. 24.05.24 - Su. 26.05.24 Where: Orangery of the Schönbrunn Palace in Vienna (Austria) There will be lectures and a plants sale on all three days as well as a conference dinner on saturday. We are also organizing something for the friday evening and (hopefully) some excursion after the conference. We will give updates as soon as we have them! Regards Christian

Hello, i am not sure if i am the right one to comment on this. But as i am the vice President of the german society that is running a similar (still quite active) forum let me just give some thoughts about this. The worst option is to delete everything. Even if there are not many new posts recently, the forum has lots of information that should not get lost. One of the goal of every society should be to spread and preserve knowledge about carnivorous plants. To me it would be a step back if all the information here got lost. Actually, i would love to see this forum being online and usuable. I admit i did not often post here in the last years, but i have read through it from time time to see if there is anything interesting happening. As Marcel said in the other post it is still a good place to announce meetings like an EEE or ICPS-Conference or whatever might be intersting to a more international audience. Also, the Sales and Wants are still used well. I don't know about the financial background of the CPS but £200 doesn't sound that much to me. I would have to check but i think that's about the same amount we pay for our forum (i will find out if that's of interest for the CPS). As i have been a moderator of our forum for years i think it will be hard to get money from those that sell plants here. I am not sure if this could be done automatically, so i am afraid someone has to write lots of PMs explaining that selling is not free. You will most likely have some that will not pay and so on. This could cause a lot of work and trouble. I am not sure if £200 is worth all that. What i imagine could work is to ask for free plants that are auctioned on the forum for the purpose of covering the costs of running this forum. I am almost sure there are people out there that would be willing to donate a plant to be auctioned here. It's probably less work and maybe you even get more money at the end. This could be done for UK, EU und USA for example. Payments through Paypal to the CPS work from almost everywhere. Maybe that's another option to consider and at least try out before closing the forum. Our german forum is still quite active and i actually think such forums can still survive Facebook, Instagram and so on, especially if the language is english. It is a pain to search Facebook and Instagram for older post and information you remember. That's much easier in a forum like that one and something many people prefer over other social media channels (that's what i often hear from our members). We are lucky to have more than 1100 members at the moment, many from them use the forum. That number of members might be a great help to keep a forum running, though. Maybe we are just lucky with that. We have recently started an Instagram channel. Since we started this we have close to 50 new members in a very short time. Some of them are now active in our forum. If not already happening, it might also be worth a try to promote the society and forum more in other social media channels to raise the number of members and as a result also raise the number of active people in the forum. Maybe i don't know the background well enough. Isn't this here the forum of the CPS (that seems to pay for it)? I just checked and the forum is not linked from the Homeapge of the CPS (or am i just blind?). If that's true i would definitely link and promote it there. That's what just came to my mind when reading the posts about the future of this forum. Whatever you do, i really hope you don't delete everything. Regards Christian

The 2023 calendar from the german carnivorous plants society can now be ordered! The calendar will be 44 cm x 32 cm. This year it will be in landscape format. There will be a total of 225 copies. In the past they have sold fast, so please don't wait too long if you want to have one. We will start shipping all orders towards the end of november. Unfortunately we had to raise the price to 18,50€ per copy this year. If you want to order a calendar please see here how to do it: If you are inside of germany, you can use the following link to order your copies: https://www.carnivoren.org/bestellservice/kalender/ For orders outside of germany, please write an Email with your address and the numbers of copies you want ot order to Benedikt Schmitt at [email protected]. The costs for shipping depend on the country and numbers of copies you order. In most cases it will be: Germany: 5,95€ for one or two calendars, 7,99€ for more than two outside of germany: 8€ per calendar, 16€ for two. If you want to have more, please ask Benedikt Schmitt for your specific country. We hope you like the calendar. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask me. Kind Regards, Christian

Hello, as every year, the german carnivorous plants society has created a calendar. The 2022 calendar can now be ordered! If you are inside of germany, you can use the following link to order your copies: https://www.carnivoren.org/bestellservice/kalender/ For orders outside of germany, please write an Email with your address and the numbers of copies you want ot order to Benedikt Schmitt at [email protected]. The calendar will be 15€. The costs for shipping depend on the country and numbers of copies you order. In most cases it will be: Germany: 5,9€ for one calendar, 7,99€ for two. outside of germany: 8€ for one calendar, 16€ for two. If you want to order more than two calendars, please ask Benedikt for the shipping costs. We hope, you will like our calendar! We will have 225 copies, which we hope to sell soon! So, don't wait too long to order your copy.

Hi Eric, thanks! I got my plants sometime around 2000 i think. I did definitely not know what a carnivorous plant is in 1982 :) And of course, the label doesn't say that natural populations exist and i do not have any reason to assume, there are natural populations in VA. I just never got aware of the disjunct distribution and was surprised to hear about that. Is there any explanation as to why there are no plants in VA? This somehow doesn't really make sense. I have seen D. filiformis in NC, but have never been more north than VA. Are the northern forms different from those in the south? Christian

If D. spatulata was on the list it is not unusual, that they are in fact D. tokaiensis. These two are often mixed and D. tokaiensis is the one that most people have without knowing it. D. tokaiensis has a rounded lamina and more/less round and straight petioles (like your plants) while in D. spatulata the petioles go gradually into the lamina (similar to the plant in the upper left). If you google you will find lots of plants that look totally different and are called D. spatulata. That's because noone really revised all those plants. There are probably some new species amongst all plants we currently call D. spatulata. The ICPS has a good site about this complex with lots of pictures and information. It is here: https://www.carnivorousplants.org/cp/taxonomy/Droseraspatulata Christian

Hello, it's definitely no cross with D. capensis. I think it it D. spatulata x ultramafica. Christian

Hello, yes, the four plants are probably D. tokaiensis. The one in the upper left could be something south african. Please post a picture of the open flower if you can catch it. This helps with identification. Just from the rosette it is more/less guessing. It doesn't typical for any of the rosetted species and could also be a hybrid. Christian

Hi, interesting, i did not know that and was under the impression, that there are natural populations of D. filiformis in Virginia. Especially as i have plants with "Virginia" as location in my collection since many years. Christian

Dear all, i am happy to announce the 2021 grant call of the german carnivorous plants society (GFP). This year we will support habitat conservation projects with up to 15.000€! For more information as well as to find out if you or your organization meets the necessary criterias and how to apply for the grant please see the two files on the the following link: https://www.carnivoren.org/naturschutz/grant-proposal/ If you have any questions, please let us know!

Hi Eric, are you sure, that there are no natural populations of D. filiformis in Virginia? Christian

Hello, from that list only D. capillaris x intermedia tends to go dormant in winter (and should be kept cold during that time). D. affinis is a tropical species and does best if kept warm year round. D. slackii is from South Africa where winters get cold, but in most cases without freezing temperatures. The just stop growing in winter. D. burmanii is an annual, but if you keep it very warm with a lot of light it will continue to grow. The only one that can withstand (a bit) frost from that list is D. capillaris x intermedia. Christian

Hello, as every year, the german carnivorous plants society has created a calendar. The 2021 calendar can now be ordered! If you are inside of germany, you can use the following link to order your copies: https://www.carnivoren.org/bestellservice/kalender/ For orders outside of germany, please write an Email with your address and the numbers of copies you want ot order to Benedikt Schmitt at [email protected]. The calendar will be 15€. The costs for shipping depend on the country and numbers of copies you order. In most cases it will be: Germany: 5,99€ for one calendar, 7,99€ for two. outside of germany: 8€ for one calendar, 16€ for two. If you want to order more than two calendars, please ask Benedikt for the shipping costs. We hope, you will like our calendar! We will have 225 copies, which we hope to sell soon! So, don't wait too long to order your copy. Regards, Christian

Hello, the calendar can now be ordered! If you are inside of germany, you can use the following link to order your copies:https://www.carnivoren.org/bestellservice/kalender/ For orders outside of germany, please write an Email with your address and the numbers of copies you want ot order to Benedikt Schmitt at [email protected]. The calendar will be 15€. The costs for shipping depend on the country and numbers of copies you order. In most cases it will be: Germany: 5,99€ for one calendar, 7,99€ for two. outside of germany: 8€ for one calendar, 16€ for two. If you want to order more than two calendars, please ask Benedikt for the shipping costs. We hope, you will like our calendar! We have ordered 225 copies, which we hope to sell soon! So, don't wait too long to order your copy.

Hello, As in the years before, the german carnivorous plants society will produce a calendar also for 2020. You can see a preview in this post. The Calendar will be 44cm x 32cm. The price will be 15€ + shipping. There will be 225 copies printed. We will start to sell it in 1-2 weeks. We will announce this on Facebook as well as on some of the most known forums. Please let me know if you have any questions!

Hello, thanks for the identification, Sean. I will update my pictures later :) Here is day 9 (of 19). After leaving the Cape Le Grand, our next stopp was planed to be Hopetoun in the eastern part of the Fitzgerald River NP. To go there we decided not take all the highway. Instead we wanted to take a smaller road for the last part of the drive to have the chance to see some carnivorous plants there. There are some lakes close to Esperance, that sometimes turn pink. This happens if the weather is right for a certain algae to grow. As this only happens very rarely, it was almost sure, that we will not see a pink lak :) The next stopp was the Roadhouse in Munglinup. There we bought some food and drinks. But we also wanted to check out a plant we found there in 2011, that we had not been able to identify with certainty back than. It now turned out, that they are D. macrantha After the stopp, there was a bit of driving before we turned into the small road we wanted to go. Immediately after driving on this road, we got slower as there was a lot to see. Besides some Drosera we could find some fascinating Orchids as well as lots of other plants. As for Drosera, D. socrpioides is quite wide spread in this area. We could also find some Drosera leucoblasta (if the identification is correct) and for the tuberous Drosera it was D. drummondii. Some nice Caladenia! Andd here are the Drosera: some more plants At the late afternoon we arrived in Hopetound and we were lucky to get a Cabin at the local Caravan Park. We quickly bought something to eat for the evening and then we went to the harbour to spend the rest of the day there. Regards, Christian

Hello, we spent the next day as well in the National Park looking for carnivorous plants and more. We basically found, what we have seen the day before. As there is nothing more to tell, here are just some pictures from that day. Regards, Christian

Hello, we spend the next day in the Cape Le Grand, close to Esperance. The Cape Le Grand is known for some beuatiful beaches with white sand and turquoise water. But first, the carnivorous plants we found that day. I have seen Utricularia westonii at this place already in 2011. At that time, the plants have been close to flower. We were hoping to find them in flower this year. But, the season was much wetter and the plants have not yet been so far. U. westonii flowers, when the water level begins to go down in spring. This year was quite wet and almost all plants we found have still been under water. We measured a maximum of 12cm water depth. The habitat looks like that: You can find small, round pygmy Drosera almost everywhere. At this place we found some D. australis (or occidentalis??) as well as some D. pulchella On drier places you can find D. scorpioides and D. sargentii We haven't seen Drosera zonaria there in 2011, so we were a bit surprised to find them :) While we were looking for U. westonii, we found another very nice Utricularia. I have known, that U. menziesii is growing there, but at this moment i have not expected to see it. They have even been in full flower, which was a nice surprise! Drosera esperensis is name after the town of Esperance, close to this National Park. Of course, we wanted to see them. The easiest to find them is to walk up this mountain Fortunately, the plants can be found in this green areas below the peak. They look like this: We also climbed up the mountain. It's not that complicated if the weather is good, so we could enjoy the nice view around from up there. On the last picture you can see some fog cominng up. At this moment we did not yet understand, that it came from a place very close to where we were staying. Elythranthera is one of the nicest plants i have seen in Western Australia. It was always nice to see them! In the afternoon we went to some of the famous beaches. According to Wikipedia, the Lucky Bay is amongst the Bays with the whitest sand on the world. This bay is also known for kangaroos, that come close to the sea. The first bay we went to was the Hellfire Bay After spending some time at the Hellfire Bay we went to Lucky Bay. Carnivorous plants are really everywhere. We could spot the one or the other species while driving from one to the other place. Also, some other interesting and nice plants While driving back to our Accomodation, the fogs got more and more dense and it got clear, that the fire must have been somewhere close to our Apartment. It got closer and closer and at some point we were afraid, that it was directly on the farm we stayed on. Fortunately it was on a neighboring farm and it was a controlled burn, so everything was ok. On the way back home we could again see some Kangaroos as well as some Emus. Regards, Christian

Hello, the next day is told fast. After the probably coldest night of our trip (about 0°C) we started this mornings south towards Esperance. Here is a picture of the cabins we spent that night in. We had no special plan for that day, other than to arrive in Esperance. n the way we stopped several times on smaller (Salt)Lakes, but could not find any carnivorous plants on the way. The Lakes have been quite interesting, though. At about twelve we arrived in Esperance and drove to the Tourist Information to find a place to sleep for the next days. As there was a public holiday as well as school holidays coming we had no chance to get something directly in town. We could book an apartment on a farm, about 20km out of town, though. As we already knew farm stays from other countries we were not disappointed at all. As there was still some time (we could check in only from two on at the farm), we went for a walk in Esperance. Esperance is a quite nice town with a population of about 10000 people and so one of the larger towns on the south coast of Western Australia. Later we drove to the farm and checked in. We were very heartly welcome. The Apartment was very nice, there was everything you need. When we looked out of the kitchen window, we could see a granite rock outcrop and we immediately thought, that there must be carnivorous plants on that rock. The farmers told us, that the rock belongs to their farm and that we are welcome to check it out. First, we went back to Esperance to buy some food and drinks for our stay at the farm. We arrived back late afternoon and did not waste any time to check out the granite rock outcrop. Our feeling was totally right! The rock was dominated by a large population of Drosera ramellosa, some other Drosera and some Orchids! It was a pleasure to have them so close by and so not carry our camera equipment a longer way. At the evening we learned, that our farmers do have a small herbarium with plants, that come from their farm and especially from this granite rock. We agreed to go there with them on on of the evenings of our stay to help them identifying some of the plants. Gruß, Christian

Hello, the next day we wanted to drive from Hyden to Norseman. As we have been told, that this road might be not in the best conditions we started very early, especieally as we wanted to check out another granite rock outcrop, a bit north of Hyden before leaving to Norseman. We arrived at this granite rock outcrop a bit later. We have been there 2011 and so we knew, that there is a quite large population of D. rupicola. Unfortunately we did not have too much time to check the whole rock, so we just looked around at the base of it. There we could find some D. rupicola as well as some D. bulbosa, together with some drosera bugs. We then drove back to Hyden to check out. It was about 9 in the morning when we started towards Norseman. The road has not been so complicated as we have been told, so we had no problems. Lucky for us :) That day we drove about 250 kilomter on that road, which did not change much over the distance. http://www.utricularia.de/bilder/reisen/WA_2018/IMG_2023.jpg We knew, that there is a chance to see D. salina and D. zigzagia in that area. These two were the reason why we wanted to drive that road. Also, D. browniana is roughly known for this area, but probably too far away from the road, so we only had small hopes to find this one. In general, this area has not been explored much. On the first stop we found the yellow flowered Drosera moorei. The landscape was well worth it all, but we could not find some Drosera for some hours after we found D. moorei. Later that day we arrived on a place where there was a small "Wave". There we could find some Drosera macrantha. A bit later we saw a huge Salt Lake. There we stopped again. We looked around and finally found such a plant: That's Droser salina! One of the plants we hoped to see that day. The population was quite large, there have been hundreds of them. All the effort paied of :) Later we could also see some Emus. The last place we stopped that day was again a granite rock outcrop. There we found some D. macrantha as well as some D. yilgarnensis. The actual highlight of that place was the following Drosera, which has so far not been doubtless identified. Time will tell, what this one is. The rest of the day was rather unspectacular. We had Fish & Chips in a local pub and spent the rest of the evening in our cabins. The following night was probably the coldest of our trip. I have even seen a little bit of ice on the window of our car in the next morning. Christian

Hello, we left the hotel early and had breakfast in a local bakery. There we got the tip to check out a larger granite rock outcrop close to Pingelly. As it is always worth to follow hints of locals we drove there. The way was a good gravel road. Roads like that are very common in that area. When we arrived at the granite outcrop it took only a few minutes until we found the first plants. One of the most prominent plants there were U. multifida. On this location we could find one of the rarer white flowered forms of this species. There have also been some Drosera. No new species, but it was always nice to find something! Besides the carnivorous plants, there have also been other nice things to see. Here is a picture of the habitat. We drove back to the Brookton Highway and then further east to Hyden. In Corrigin we stoped to refill the car and to buy some food and drinks. Whenever possible, we stoped around noon at Roadhouses like this as they most often offer something to eat and drink. A few kilometer before Hyden we stoped and there we could find the first yellow flowered Drosera of our trip. This one is D. subhirtella The location: This night we wanted to stay in Hyden. We had luck and could get a nice Apartment at the Caravan Park. As we arrived a bit early we decided to go first to the Wave Rock, for which Hyden is known. That's one of the best known touristic places in south Western Australia. In contrast to the days before we have not been alone there. The iconic Rock Around this Rock you can find many carnivorous plants. We saw D. bulbosa, macrantha, glanduligera, yilgarnensis and stricticaulis there. The landscape above the "Wave" is also very interesting and worth to see! It was early afternoon as we checked in to our Apartment. At about 16 o'clock we started again to see another location in the south of Hyden. There were still about 2 hours until sunset, so we had not too much time. As we wanted to drive further east the next day we would not have time the next day for this, so we decided to take the chance and see if we can still see something when we arrive. We arrived when the sun was already starting to go down. The location is really nice and you can probably spend a whole day there. We had roughly one hour and so we did not waste much time. The first Drosera we found were some D. rupicola Another new species for this trip was D. graniticola. On the last picture you can as well see D. yilgarnensis. We were very happy to see D. lowriei at this location The day ended with some nice D. macrantha in the back light. Regards, Christian

Hello, in the afternoon we wanted to drive to Brookton to stay in the local caravan park for that night. On the way we wanted to see some locations along the Brookton Highway. We made several stops where we found the following plants D. menziesii, rosulata and glanduligera have not been new. We found them on several different places. Auf dieser Strecke hatten wir eigentlich die Hoffnung schöne Drosera gigantea zu finden. 2011 hatten wir dort einige sehr schöne Stellen mit dieser Art gesehen. Dieses Jahr waren sie leider noch nicht so weit: We were hoping to find Drosera gigantea in that area. We have seen some nice plants in 2011. This year, they have not yet been so far. We could only find one plant which was already in flower. Another common plant in that area is Drosera stolonifera. At the end of the day we saw a very nice population of Drosera zonaria. Interestingly, we have been on that place in 2011 already but have not seen them. There have been so many of them, that i hardly can't believe we have not seen them last time. Of course, there have also been some pygmy Drosera. We could find D. hyperostigma and D. nitidula as well as one plant, that i can't identify. On one of the locations we have seen some U. multifida. The plant we most wanted to see was Byblis gigantea. We have known this location from our last trip, so we knew where to look for them. Unfortunately, the plants are just beginning to grow in September. As they have almost the same color as the surrounding vegetation it was not so easy to find them. Our plan was to stay that night in Brookton. I tried to call them from the afternoon on, but had no luck. As we arrived there we had to find out, that they don't have any cabins, just some sites for Caravans. So we had to look for an alternative. Brookton is, as most of the towns in that area, not too large. There was just one other hotel, which was unfortunately already full. The nice people from that hotel helped us a lot and tried to phone the hotel in Pingelly, which is only about 15km (so just around the corner for that part of the world) away. We could get some rooms there. The people from Brookton asked us several time if it is ok for us, as this hotel is quite old. It was already late and we did not want to drive any further, so we booked the rooms there. In Pingelly we fastly checked in. The hotel is really old and the rooms had not much more than a bed and a couch. That was it. It was in fact old and some renovations would really be needed. We did not really feel comfortable. The food was ok and they also had some drinks. We left early the next morning and we probably will try to avoid this place in case we will be in that area again in the future. Regards, Christian