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Posts posted by Marcel van den Broek
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Gold for both Matt and Nigel at the Chelsea Flower show....as usual

Well done.

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If it the Bob H I instantly think it is, no unfortunately. Bob Hanrahan from the US died in May 2013
Bob was mostly know for Sarracenia but I know he was very keen on Utricularia too.
Other option is a guy from Norfolk but he hasn't been on this forum since april 2013 either.
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Both fieldtrip and actual conference are just about full (yeah!) so if you want to come you better hurry.
Speakerslist is finished, and what a line up!
Greg Bourke
Rob Cantley
Charles Clarke
Adam Cross
Joel Daniel
Andreas Fleischmann
Jeremiah Harris
Koji Kondo
Ch'ien Lee
Allen Lowrie
Drew Martinez
Mason McNair
Katja Rembold
Andrej Pavlovic
Alastair Robinson
Jan Schlauer
Caroline Schoner
Michael Schoner
Naoki Tanabe
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News from Stew: Yahoo! Lowrie's book are ready!!
Dear Valued Customers,
Firstly, please may I wish you all a very Happy Easter.
I am writing with the exciting news that Carnivorous Plants of Australia Magnum Opus is finally complete. We are airfreighting 300 copies of each volume to the UK from the printers, and we will ship out all pre-orders from the 1st week of May.
If you have placed an order and your postal address has changed in the intervening time, please would you kindly notify the Redfern Sales team of your new details ( sales@redfernnaturalhistory.com) .
May I thank all pre-order customers for waiting so patiently for this work. It has been a mammoth project for the Redfern team to undertake, and is without a doubt the most comprehensive and beautiful study of carnivorous plants which we, as a company, have published to date. I am very confident that you will agree that the final product is well worth the wait!
The three volumes of Magnum Opus are (in total) 1355 pages long, and contain over 2,500 images. An overview is below, and I have attached sample pages from each volume to this email for you to see, along with the dust jackets.
These very special books can be ordered here:
http://www.redfernnaturalhistory.com/books/carnivorous-plants-of-australia-magnum-opus-vol-1/
http://www.redfernnaturalhistory.com/books/carnivorous-plants-australia-magnum-opus-vol-2/
http://www.redfernnaturalhistory.com/books/carnivorous-plants-australia-magnum-opus-vol-3/
Currently, about 200 of the 500 unique signed and numbered copies have been sold. These copies which are signed and numbered by Allen Lowrie are shipped on a first come, first served basis, so the sooner you order a signed and numbered set, the lower the signing number that you will receive. So if you want a set with a low signing number, order asap.
Well, may I sincerely thank you for your patronage.
Yours sincerely
Stewart McPherson
Redfern Natural History Productions
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Carnivorous Plants of Australia Magnum Opus Volumes 1., 2. and 3
Australia is home to over one third of all carnivorous plant species currently recognised worldwide. Moreover, the different species found on this continent also represent many of the most diverse carnivorous plant forms known, including some of the largest, most spectacular and unusual representatives of the major carnivorous plant groups. Over the past five decades, renowned botanist Allen Lowrie has travelled across Australia in order to observe, study and photograph all the carnivorous plant species of the continent. This benchmark study represents his accumulated life’s work to date, and offers a definitive and unparalleled examination of all carnivorous plants species currently known from Australia. Carnivorous Plants of Australia Magnum Opus features in-depth, fully illustrated descriptions of all taxa, and introduces for the first time more than 20 new species, 4 new hybrids, and a number of new combinations and new records for Australia. This exhaustive work also includes a wealth of new information and location data, new observations, unique photographs and species distribution maps.
The three volumes of this work are divided as follows:
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Volume 1:
Acknowledgements
Preface
Types of Carnivorous Plants
Habitats of Carnivorous Plants in Australia
Substrate – an important determinant in Drosera growth habits
The Groups of Australian Drosera- Tuberous Drosera 30
- Pygmy Drosera 44
- Natural Pygmy Drosera Hybrids 52
- Man-made Pygmy Drosera Hybrids 56
- Perennial Tropical Drosera 60
- Miscellaneous Drosera 78
- Drosera indica Complex 78
Setocoris – the Sundew Bugs 80
Keys to the Carnivorous Plants of Australia 88
The Species:- Introduction to the Species Descriptions
- Aldrovanda
- Byblis
- Cephalotus
- Drosera species A to F; aberrans, adelae, allantostigma, andersoniana, androsacea, aquatica, arcturi, aurantiaca, auriculata, australis, × badgerupii, × badgingarra, banksii, barbigera, barrettorum, basifolia, bicolor, binata, bindoon, brevicornis, broomensis, browniana, bulbigena, bulbosa, burmannii, caduca, callistos, calycina, × carbarup, citrina, closterostigma, coalara, collina, coomallo, cucullata, darwinensis, depauperata, derbyensis, dichrosepala, dilatatopetiolaris, drummondii, echinoblastus, eneabba, enodes, eremaea, erythrogyne, erythrorhiza, esperensis, falconeri, fimbriata, finlaysoniana, fragrans, fulva
Volume 2:
The Species (continued from Volume 1):
- Drosera species F to Z; geniculata, gibsonii, gigantea, glabriscapa, glanduligera, gracilis, graniticola, grievei, hamiltonii, hartmeyerorum, helodes, heterophylla, hirsuta, hookeri, huegelii, humilis, hyperostigma, indumenta, intricata, kenneallyi, lanata, lasiantha, × legrandii, leioblastus, leucoblasta, leucostigma, lowriei, lunata, macrantha, macrophylla, magna, major, mannii, marchantii, menziesii, micra, micrantha, microphylla, microscapa, miniata, minutiflora, modesta, monantha, monticola, moorei, murfetii, myriantha, nana, neesii, nitidula, nivea, occidentalis, omissa, orbiculata, ordensis, oreopodion, paleacea, pallida, paradoxa, patens, pedicellaris, peltata, petiolaris, × pingellyensis, planchonii, platypoda, platystigma, porrecta, praefolia, prolifera, prophylla, prostrata, prostratoscaposa, pulchella, purpurascens, pycnoblasta, pygmaea, radicans, ramellosa, rechingeri, roseana, rosulata, rupicola, salina, sargentii, schizandra, schmutzii, scorpioides, serpens, sewelliae, × sidjamesii, silvicola, spatulata, spilos, squamosa, stelliflora, stolonifera, stricticaulis, subhirtella, subtilis, sulphurea, thysanosepala, trichocaulis, tubaestylis, verrucata, walyunga, whittakeri, yilgarnensis, zigzagia, zonaria
Volume 3:
Species Descriptions:- Nepenthes
- Utricularia subgenus Polypompholyx, U. section Polypompholyx
- Utricularia subgenus Polypompholyx section Pleiochasia, U. subgenus Bivalvaria and U. subgenus Utricularia
Biographies of the Botanists
James Drummond & the Swan River Colony
Appendix:- New Species
- New Natural Hybrids
- New Combinations
- New Records for Australia
- New Statuses
- Species Recalled from Synonymy
- New Sections
- Application of names in Drosera section Arachnopus (Droseraceae)
- A Note about Orthographically Corrected Names
- Glossary
- Botanical Latin Abbreviations
- Botanical symbols
- Author Abbreviations
- Herbarium Abbreviations
- Pronunciation of Names
Bibliography
Index
Signed copies bear the signature of Allen Lowrie. Volume 1 of each set bears a unique set number (from 1 to 500). Signed and numbered sets are shipped in numerical order (the sooner that the order is placed, the lower the number that you will receive). -
It is a very good book that has a very good scientific content, good habitat info including a text on all known countries where the plants grow (naturally or introduced) good cultivation section too. Actually, it is all in one.
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I seem to remember a signature of someone (honestly can't remember who) a couple of years ago stating: S. rosea, don't be ridiculous!
anyway on the dews:
keeping my fingers crossed for germination Dave....

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Allen Lowrie and John Conran discribe a "new" sundew.
Do you think it should be a full species or not? Make up your own mind, here is the paper: http://www.environment.sa.gov.au/files/54d1f828-4dae-444b-a2bb-a2ff00d06354/jabg-27-lowrie-gen.pdf
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There is a 3 part Atlas on Utricularia in preparation that should provide a good overview. There has been some delay in this project but hopefully we will know more later this year. Taylor is a good book but not only lacks it new developments, it is also mainley an identification key. Lots of technical discriptions and linedrawings instead of pictures, so not a book for the casual hobbyist that seeks something like the books of Redfern or The Savage Garden.
Other than that, no specific Utricularia books, though Allen Lowries books (both the first series as the new ones) deal with the Australian species and both Barry Rice and Peter d 'Amato did a nice section on them in their books.
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They don't really use their webpage. It was made years ago but it really isn't active.
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Hi Paul,
It's because of the large subsidies offered to the growers by the Dutch government, which over the years has enabled them to sew up the market both in Europe and beyond.
It must be worthwhile judging by the huge number of nurseries you see as soon as you get off of the boat that go on for acres.
Nigel HC
Not so much subsidies as facilities, specific spatial planning and what we call "Het drieluik" which means triptych of science, education and business. Basically that means that for instance the agri business has a saying in the agricultural education and funds some of the research. Actually it even goes as far that Dutch Agricultural schools don't belong to the deparment of education but to the department of agriculture.
To get back on the question, Carniflora is strictly a wholesale nursery that does most of it's sales through the Flower auction straight to wholesale companies. They very rarely do business with other parties. Because they are flooded with mail by private individuals they often ignore mail and are very selective (and sometimes slow) in answering which is understandable if you know that every Tom, Dick and Harry between Malaga and Moscow that grows CP's mails them about plants and visits. Mostly they only answer if they know you or if they are very sure that someone is representing a large nursery. By the way, their English is indeed fine

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Nice segment, plants look lovely

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FRED, please!


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Long before there was such a thing as forums people used the CP listserver, kind of a group e-mail (it is actually still around). The squirell wars I refered to was a very lenghty and heated discussion that lasted for weeks and reapeared just about every year. I would like to avoid that here, so ask a question,get an answer but don't drag every species of animal in the same thread and don't keep it going on and on. That to me looked like a serious risk given your ahh passionate statement about cats, hence my respons.
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Oh boy, please no squirrel wars (or cat, rabbit etc)
!My fellow dinosaurs will know exactly what I mean
for the rest of you..never mind, just don't start a whole topic on animal control/pests
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Some effort solution: A cage from wire mesh. I have my hardy pings protected that way from birds, the sides are wire mesh between poles and a frame with mesh between it rests on the top of the poles as a lid. Dig the mesh at least 80 cm in the ground too!.
Easiest solution: Rabbit stew!
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Actually the ICPS has distributed Sarracenia seeds from very rare plants and very specific locations in cooperation with the proper authorities in the past. These seeds have a location code that is known to the ICPS but to others it is just a number. However growers can still identify plants that originate from the same location as long as the code stays with the seedlings. Easy to do and if someone can get legal Cephalotus seeds into cultivation the ICPS will be happy to give them a code and maintain the key to that so it will be properly stored even if a person or a nursery isn't there anymore in the future. (if the interest in spreading location seeds is pure scientific with no commercial gain we can actually help distributing them through the ICPS seedbank, all (small) profits of this seedbank are used for conservation and nothing else!).
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Nice!
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The prices of genetic testing, even if you work out the proper markers first, will be to high even for profits made with some of the prices that I encounter.
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It is fixed, but both video's are the same, D. gigantea. Thanks for posting though

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I remember that place, no worries it will recover if left alone. Natural process.
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Same issue as the Byblis video.
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Video not playing as setting is private mate

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I'll try and see if I can get Jan to expand our cultivar registration text on our website with some of the questions that frequently pop up. May take some time but as cultivars and their status is a reoccuring theme on this forum I think it would be a useful thing to do
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I'm not so sure Stephen. Of course I try to keep things simple in this posts (for the technical details of this Jan would be the best source as I only know the basics. That is why he's the registar and not me) but basically what I find in literature is that publication is sometimes but not always enough to have a cultivar named. There are a lot (and I do mean a lot) of details that can screw this up which is why the offical registration was invented in the first place. Mu advise is that it is always the best option to be sure (and once you have done the publication filling out the form will take no time at all and it's not like the ICPS is getting any money out of it...).

ICPS conference 2014, Cairns Australia
in Carnivorous Plant Societies
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We have had three spaces open up for the Cape York Field Trip. Send us a message if you are interested.
ICSP2014@captiveexotics.com