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  1. 2 points
    Cephs can seem quite variable, so when you are picking plants you may find yourself choosing between plants that show different characteristics and pick one that you like best. The problem with that is, that plants that can be cuttings from the same parent plant, can show different characteristics, when they are genetically all the same. Worst still, you take your prize home and expect it to continue to show that preferred characteristic, such as dark colour, and the new pitchers don't do so. Cephs will grow differently under different conditions, and it can be small things that make the difference, even if left in the one spot they can vary from year to year. For this reason there is a lot of contention about naming varieties of Cephs, because many of them mean very little other than helping to trace where the plant came from, but even that has become an issue in itself. Some plants that have been named for their previous supplier, by those who sell them on, get treated as though they are something special when they are just named as a way of distinguishing different stock, and this has given rise to people wanting a particular named plant while not realising it is not that different to any other commonly available Ceph. This chasing of names has artificially inflated the selling price of many plants which are not worthy of the increased cost. We could put up photos different plants that will look similar even if grown under different conditions, or photos of the same plant under different conditions that may, or may not, show differences, as well as photos of the same plant, under the same basic conditions that show different characteristics one year from the next. Basically what we are saying is, don't look for a variety name, as it is no guarantee that you will get a plant that will display the characteristic that you are looking for, but rather it is more likely that you will pay more than you ought. Cephs can be difficult to get growing well, so you are better off getting a Typical/normal/standard Ceph (one without a variety name) and learning how to grow that well. If in future, you have had good success with Cephs, then it may be worth looking at getting a named plant, for the purpose of trying to increase the genetic variety in your collection, which is most useful if you want to produce your own seed. A simpler way is to buy plants grown from seed, especially if from different growers, as then you will have your own genetically unique plants (even if the genetic difference is minor). The issue of how much real genetic variation there is in Cephs and whether it actually has much impact in the appearance of the plant is a much debated issue and that is what you have walked into. This is why the responses seem confusing so please don't take it personally. Fred (I think) is just trying to save you money and protect you from disappointment of buying a plant based on an appearance that it may not display under your conditions. Hopefully that helps to clear things up for you. BTW, In case it is not obvious, Dimitar was trying to be funny in referring you to a contentious "variety".
  2. 1 point
    I think that Marcus B has described the situation very well and is correct that the other members were trying to make you aware that a named clone might, or might not, display their claimed characteristics given certain conditions. There has been a lot of dicussion on this forum, one of the other popular CP forums and Facebook on the validity of certain Cephalotus clones and cultivars, for which I think it was determined that there is actually no requirement in the cultivar registration process for the claimed characteristics to be validated. WIthout this awareness, I can see that this discussion may have appeared to be slightly fragmented. I personally grow a number of named clones, cultivars, location names, and 'typical' Cephalotus which I was fortunate enough to have been given for free, or only pay a minimal amount for, and I have to say I like them all equally. Sure, some might have slighlty larger pitchers than others, but it does not make those others less desirable. Also, some clones and cultivar characteristics only appear in very specific growing conditions for which you may, or may not, be able to reproduce. For instance, the dark clones I have seen seem to have the ability to possibly get darker than their 'typical' counterparts in conditions that would get good colouration in the 'typical', but the conditions must be met. The largest pitcher I have ever seen was on a Cephalotus that was grown in a modified refrigerator, but not many growers are going to go to the lengths of reproducing such conditions.
  3. 1 point
    Thanks for your kind words Mark :)
  4. 1 point
    Here in Holland Í have bought some lava stone, it is porous but not that far you can put just some soil in and grow the plant. I had to drill a hole in to fit the plant in, but when it is in a tray of water, it kind of soaks the water up. This far they seem to enjoy growing on them
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    What is coming out in the comments appears to be the frustration that this issue has come up again and looks like it won't go away. Many people who are new to growing Cephs get drawn to the idea that if they pay a lot of money for a plant with a name then they will have something special and then they get disappointed. Giants such as the ones listed on Michael's site have a tendency to produce large than "typical" sized pitchers more readily than "Typical" Cephs. However, given the right conditions, "Typical" plants can also produce large pitchers, hence the argument about whether such a distinction is valid. From my own experience, such a distinction does have merit, but it seems that too many plants have been sold as being something that they are not and so confusion reigns. There are lot of other variations that get named which appear to be products of a particular grower's set up and therefore not something that is genetic. It is this combination of debatable issues, and the fact that some people seem to take advantage of it, which is what many get worked up about. It gets too easy to forget how confusing this can be to those who just want to start growing something a bit unusual. Have fun picking out your new plant, but just be prepared for it to do things you don't expect, including dying back for awhile, but give it time to settle in and in a few years you may have a plant that you are proud to show off. If Michael grows them himself rather than just on selling plants, then talk to him about the conditions he keeps them in and get his suggestions for how to accommodate the plant in your set up, but be ready to enjoy your Ceph even if it does not do what you hope for.
  6. 1 point
    Yes, I have a greenhouse - two boxes: lowland and highland.